NCAA March Madness Men's Bracket Preview

[jcf817]

The NCAA Tournament committee's first bracket preview is Saturday (Do they do any subsequent updates, like the CFP committee?). Will the Cyclones be a 2-seed?
I'm thinking solid 2-seed, but what do I know?

Your thoughts?

 

[ClonesFTW]

They will likely be a 3 on the initial reveal.

 

[jcf817]

They will likely be a 3 on the initial reveal.

Why do you think that?

 

[ClonesFTW]

Why do you think that?

We're battling (for now) with Texas A&M, Florida, and Purdue for potential 2 seed position.

Florida - Has 2 more total wins on the season, no Q2 losses.
Purdue - Same overall wins, same number of Q1 wins, but no Q2 losses.
A&M - Same overall wins, same number of Q1 wins, no Q2 losses

In summary... Kansas State loss is the difference at the moment.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I am going to be optimistic and hope that the committee is informed enough on our team and the Milan injury that they set us as a 2 to start. I wouldn't be shocked at a 3 though, because optimism isn't usually warranted with these types of systems that are designed to achieve a result.

 

[Statefan10]

I could see us being either the top 3 seed or bottom 2's. We're 7th in NET and 7th in Ken Pom. I know we're 10th in the AP, but so far this week, #5 Tennessee, #7 Purdue and #9 St. John's all lost.

1. Auburn
1. Alabama
1. Duke
1. Houston

2. Florida
2. Tennessee
2. Purdue
2. Iowa State/Texas A&M

3. Texas A&M/Iowa State
3. Texas Tech
3. St. John's
3. Kansas

4. Kentucky
4. Michigan State
4. Arizona
4. Wisconsin/Gonzaga

 

[jcf817]

We're battling (for now) with Texas A&M, Florida, and Purdue for potential 2 seed position.

Florida - Has 4 more total wins on the season, no Q2 losses.
Purdue - Same overall wins, same number of Q1 wins, but no Q2 losses.
A&M - Same overall wins, same number of Q1 wins, no Q2 losses

In summary... Kansas State loss is the difference at the moment.

Fair points. Thanks

The Cyclones are 16-1 with MM, 3-4 without. My understanding is that the committee says they take the loss/return of a key player into consideration. If they indeed do, I think we move up to a 2-seed.

 

[Nothingman]

Last two seed or first three seed is my guess.

 

[Statefan10]

We're battling (for now) with Texas A&M, Florida, and Purdue for potential 2 seed position.

Florida - Has 4 more total wins on the season, no Q2 losses.
Purdue - Same overall wins, same number of Q1 wins, but no Q2 losses.
A&M - Same overall wins, same number of Q1 wins, no Q2 losses

In summary... Kansas State loss is the difference at the moment.

Florida will definitely be above us and is playing like the best team in the nation right now, but they only have two more total wins than us, not 4.

 

[CoachHines3]

CoachHines official top 16

1. Auburn
2. Duke
3. Houston
4. Florida

5. Tennessee
6. Alabama
7. Iowa State
8. Purdue

9. Texas A&M
10. Texas Tech
11. Arizona
12. Kansas

13. Kentucky
14. Illinois
15. Wisconsin
16. Michigan



EDIT- removed Ole Miss b/c I forgot all about Kentucky.

 

[GoHawks]

Hopefully this qualifies for this topic but ridiculous how low Drake is being projected in these mock brackets which is typically 11-12. They should be an 8. Now you might say hold on Gohawks it's better to be an 11 or 12 and while I might agree it's telling me Drake can do nothing but win the MVC to get in and as it stands today 23-2 I don't think that's fair

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Am I the only one that hasn't bought into the hype for Tennessee? I know that outside of being boat-raced by Florida early on, their losses are all by single digits, but I'm struggling to be scared of them like other teams.

And Purdue seems like a very beatable 2 seed. They shoot the ball well, but I would favor our backcourt versus theirs in that match-up and think we could rattle them. They also don't rebound very well as a team.

I'm more worried about a Kentucky or a UConn team hitting on all cylinders than I am of Tennessee or Purdue. If Kentucky stops playing defense like an AAU team, they will be a handful come March.

 

[awd4cy]

Hopefully this qualifies for this topic but ridiculous how low Drake is being projected in these mock brackets which is typically 11-12. They should be an 8. Now you might say hold on Gohawks it's better to be an 11 or 12 and while I might agree it's telling me Drake can do nothing but win the MVC to get in and as it stands today 23-2 I don't think that's fair

Eh, I think they are appropriately where they should be.

 

[cyclones500]

I could see us being either the top 3 seed or bottom 2's. We're 7th in NET and 7th in Ken Pom. I know we're 10th in the AP, but so far this week, #5 Tennessee, #7 Purdue and #9 St. John's all lost.

1. Auburn
1. Alabama
1. Duke
1. Houston

2. Florida
2. Tennessee
2. Purdue
2. Iowa State/Texas A&M

3. Texas A&M/Iowa State
3. Texas Tech
3. St. John's
3. Kansas

4. Kentucky
4. Michigan State
4. Arizona
4. Wisconsin/Gonzaga

I think a majority of that is close, with a few minor swaps on the curve. Only one I'd remove completely is Gonzaga.

 

[GoHawks]

Eh, I think they are appropriately where they should be.

Is there no way they can get an at large in your opinion?

 

[Cyclonepride]

Hopefully this qualifies for this topic but ridiculous how low Drake is being projected in these mock brackets which is typically 11-12. They should be an 8. Now you might say hold on Gohawks it's better to be an 11 or 12 and while I might agree it's telling me Drake can do nothing but win the MVC to get in and as it stands today 23-2 I don't think that's fair

Most teams certainly wouldn't want to face them, but I think their problem is that all their really solid wins are pretty early and there's really no other great team in their league.

I think 10-12 is probably appropriate given their schedule. If they continue to play like this, I would like to see them get an at-large if they don't win the MVC tournament, but I'm not sure they will.

 

[ISUTex]

Why do you think that?

Because we're Iowa State and we're in the Big 12. That's why. It's all about Duke baby. Oh and the greatest conference of all time. The SEC.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

Hopefully this qualifies for this topic but ridiculous how low Drake is being projected in these mock brackets which is typically 11-12. They should be an 8. Now you might say hold on Gohawks it's better to be an 11 or 12 and while I might agree it's telling me Drake can do nothing but win the MVC to get in and as it stands today 23-2 I don't think that's fair

Wins over KState and Vandy could boost their resume enough to have them sneak in if they don't win the tourney, but they simply don't have any more "wow" wins left on their schedule. They just have to hope KState and Vandy keep winning to help their cause.

I still think they probably need to win the MV tourney to be sure, especially since the committee is going to do everything they can to include the entire SEC in the field.

 

[cyclones500]

I'm in the group thinking lowest 2/highest 3.

I'm OK not being on 2 line right now, maybe superstitious/stitious is part of it, at least a couple of times after the reveal when ISU was in top 16, it lost its game that same day.

 

[awd4cy]

Is there no way they can get an at large in your opinion?

Scheduling a harder non conference. Vandy is decent and Kansas State is starting to look good, although they probably get killed in the wildcats current form. Unfortunately, the mvc is nothing like what it was 20 years ago.

I am pulling for them though and want to see them in.