2025 Athletics Update

This is part of the problem too.

Increasing costs for an entertainment item both in the form of tix and donations etc, but also in the form of NIL collectives. College football games are very much a discretionary expense, and at some point people will cut the cost.

People complain about paying $5-10 for ESPN+, but paying hundreds even thousands more is just expected to go to a few games.

NIL is supposed to be where businesses etc, pay players for their NIL, for things like advertisements etc. (ie Iowa pork for Bacon)

Instead its become Joe normal fan give money to a collective so we can pay an 18 year old, 10X Joe normal fan's annual salary, to play football a few months a year, all the while giving him free tuition, housing, nutrition, medical etc etc. Oh then after you give him the money he can decide not to play, and then go play somewhere else that offers more.

I get it that we have to do it because everyone else is, that still doesnt make it right or how it should be set up.

I also get that the NFL etc pays millions to their players, but they are not expecting the regular fans to pay that plus their NIL deals they get from businesses (ie Toyota and Purdy) outside the cost of attending games.

Blame the courts for the bold. The Athletic Departments sure as hell didn't want it to go down the current path.
 
This is the huge point that's not getting enough attention.

We had season tickets in 2021 but dropped them for the next season after realizing it was far more economical to pick and choose the games we wanted to attend via the secondary market, especially since that saved us costly/time consuming trips to Ames for games we didn't care that much about attending.

The more expensive it is to buy season tickets (and be Cyclone Club members) the more people will do this, and tickets weren't exactly insabely in demand this year when we won 10 games.

Raising costs at all, regardless of how ours compare to other Big XII schools, is risky business.

This has always been the case. Season ticket holders really take a bath on the deal because even in the event you have to miss a game, you almost certainly won't get back face value for your tickets, let alone the cost of the donation it took to get those tickets in the first place. I do most of the selling for my extended family's block of tickets and inevitably as the season goes on we have more to sell, due to more family commitments, wives not liking the colder weather, that kind of thing. So I'm frequently selling a couple here and there for almost every game. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've gotten face value or more back.

In the past you could rationalize that as supporting the program or athletic department. But things are different now; people are going to need to decide if it's a good economic choice for them to subsidize a for-profit enterprise.
 
This has always been the case. Season ticket holders really take a bath on the deal because even in the event you have to miss a game, you almost certainly won't get back face value for your tickets, let alone the cost of the donation it took to get those tickets in the first place. I do most of the selling for my extended family's block of tickets and inevitably as the season goes on we have more to sell, due to more family commitments, wives not liking the colder weather, that kind of thing. So I'm frequently selling a couple here and there for almost every game. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've gotten face value or more back.

In the past you could rationalize that as supporting the program or athletic department. But things are different now; people are going to need to decide if it's a good economic choice for them to subsidize a for-profit enterprise.
Couldn’t even give them away last two home games.
 
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I'm not sure I'd have sent it on Jan. 1 but this was not surprising in the least but why getting a 2nd playoff team would have been huge.

It sucks. No one likes more expensive tickets or whatever. Hell, I don't like it when chewing gum costs more. No one likes prices rising. But it is the sad reality. Unless a much bigger grant of rights deal is coming down the line.... this is the correct path at least for the time being.

I'm most concerned about the 10% cut in the sporting budgets cause I really don't know how or where you get that from
 
The difference is also having fewer donors. We can’t dismiss this as “poor us”, there is an element to “cheap us”, as well.
So true. This attitude is prevalent here. It really isn't true about how poor we are. I think the lost generation of people from '84ish to '97ish (???) really lost their connection with isu.

Also, prevalent on this board, especially the politics side, is how ****** up Iowa and Iowa State are and it spills into threads like this.
The negatively is really bizaare. The good news is though these people are in the extreme minority, but it has spilled into NCC numbers where we are near the bottom while having the second most living alums?
 
To be fair my point about the Ferrari price was because I was told to compare MBB prices at Kansas and CU to those at ISU.

I said its hard to compare ISU to KU BB if you dont consider the # of national championships and final 4 runs there to us. I have not looked at KU BB tix for that reason. Which would be like comparing us to a Ferrari being KU basketball.

But I did show that CUs were significantly cheaper even though that poster claimed they werent. Both at the top priced seats and the lowest price seats.

And I believe if you look at some of the best performing FB schools you will find even though they are much higher performing their ticket and donor cost is less. Or at very least similar to ours with a much weaker history.

Our donor base is not more because the history of ISU sports, you can try to price things to compensate for that, but that may come back to bite you. I doubt it will increase our donor base, at least as far as number of donors goes by raising donor prices. We spend a few years with top 5 finishes in football and basketball I am sure the number of donors will increase.

I dont know what the answer is, my point was, our prices are already at or near the top of costs out there, and at some point they are going to price people out. Then our donor base could drop even more and hurt the overall number too.

I gave several examples of our peers in the B12 showing just that we are at or above them in price, and everyone that said I was wrong provided Zero examples.
Delusional.
 
As someone who is up in Minnesota and can't afford season tickets at this point with 2 kids under 3 I hope whatever happens they continue to make it easy for me to make a monthly donation to the pay the player fund like I do with We Will. It's easy to bake into my budget and I'd prefer it goes to getting and retaining players. It's crazy to me we can't get a bunch of small time donors to do monthly recurring donations like this. Feels like this is something we should excel at
 
As someone who is up in Minnesota and can't afford season tickets at this point with 2 kids under 3 I hope whatever happens they continue to make it easy for me to make a monthly donation to the pay the player fund like I do with We Will. It's easy to bake into my budget and I'd prefer it goes to getting and retaining players. It's crazy to me we can't get a bunch of small time donors to do monthly recurring donations like this. Feels like this is something we should excel at
People would post white papers on here why they won't give to WW. At least we are past this stage. Yeah!
 
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Honestly, this increase is less than I would have thought. Got to pay the players somehow, and ESPN isn't going to do it.
 
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which i think is something for isu to consider in the new age of fandom
or shoot, at least improve the concession stand expereience

in the 20+ sporting stadiums ive been to, Hilton and JTS have some of the worst concession stand options, process, experience.
Went down to Austin and caught the men's game there last yr. They do concessions right, little mini restaurants and prices that were very competitive in relationship to the area's eateries.
 
Went down to Austin and caught the men's game there last yr. They do concessions right, little mini restaurants and prices that were very competitive in relationship to the area's eateries.

Even in Boulder on Monday, they have similar areas to what you see at pro stadiums/arenas. Grab your drink from a cooler, maybe food depending on the setup, and go to check out. Much quicker than at Hilton.
 
One interesting thing is that he mentions in the letter that the budget will need to increase by $20 million in 2025. I am wondering if this means we will be closer to fully funding the entire $20 million. Everyone had thought we wouldn't come close.
We'll find a way to get there. Maybe not next year, but soon. We have to. Pollard will find a way. Unfortunately, that $20million will likely keep increasing over time.
 
As someone who is up in Minnesota and can't afford season tickets at this point with 2 kids under 3 I hope whatever happens they continue to make it easy for me to make a monthly donation to the pay the player fund like I do with We Will. It's easy to bake into my budget and I'd prefer it goes to getting and retaining players. It's crazy to me we can't get a bunch of small time donors to do monthly recurring donations like this. Feels like this is something we should excel at
A 90+ million AD budget can’t find away to pay players. Well maybe they can if the budget becomes 110M. Not too crazy to think households can’t find away either.

The fact that we all “buy” the “this is the way it is, accept it or die” is the same reason there is still a rose bowl where 50 or so bowl committee members collectively make millions for no reason. Just got to accept it, cuz Ain’t no one involved that is going to give up one penny of their take. The only answer is more. MOAR!
 

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