Speed camera

The one in Chester on Hwy 63 has not caught me, but man is it a sinister placement.

Hudson put up a bunch of them 18 months ago. I think it was last summer or this summer last year they were already touting a sweet new Polaris UTV they had purchased for the PD with the proceeds from the increased safety.
The one on 63 coming from the south where it goes from 50 to 35 for absolutely no reason has paid for that UTV several times over.
 
Yeah, let's just ignore the reduction in fatal crashes.

Hope nobody you love gets killed in an accident.
Yes, because these cameras were all about safety....Like the one on 235 that has been working for the last decade and there has been zero proof that it's saved one life. We've been down this road before, most are not intended to save lives, they are there to make money and the DOT called them out on it. I trust the DOT's judgement more than jimmy bob mayor in S Town Iowa
 
It was a money grab and has very little to do with public safety. The one in Prairie City was a perfect example of this. I could see them in town, but that one you never went through the town itself.
Bloomfield has a spot on highway 2 where the speed limit drops from 55 down to 35, not really in town, but its part of the city. Every week they have a list of 10 to 15 people that were given speeding tickets through that section of the road listed in the paper. 95% of them are out of town or out of state drivers.
 
Bye Bye cameras on the Avenue of the Saints! I'm sure Lee county will throw a hissy fit over their new revenue source drying up.

I mean seriously, speed cameras in the middle of nowhere on a 4 lane highway with a 65 MPH speed limit. That was 100% bottom line padding while crying "ma-safety" in a failed attempt to justify it. Props to the DOT for smacking them down.
 
A lot of people breaking the law I guess.

I’d have a lot less issue with these if they went the route of Europe and provided immediate notice to the driver that they were caught. Maybe provide a light 1/4 mile ahead saying you are speeding and then only use the camera if they don’t slow down. Without immediate correction, I just don’t see how this really improves safety.

But, this still comes down to behavior. Drivers have grown accustomed to speeding in the US and feel like it’s the fault of law enforcement when they get caught. If these were unmarked cars on the side of the highway, would there be the same uproar?

Drove down to Iowa last week and ran through a number of speed zones for construction. Appeciated the "Your Speed Is" big digitial display boards a short distance into the speed zone. Could save you one of those million dollar speeding in a construction zone tickets but more importantly it probably actually slows peeps down for worker safety.

Difference between that and revenue speed traps. If people are driving though your little town at high speed you can still ticket them, you just have to actually work to do it. It's why CR gets to keep theirs and other do not.
 
It was a money grab and has very little to do with public safety. The one in Prairie City was a perfect example of this. I could see them in town, but that one you never went through the town itself.
Bloomfield has a spot on highway 2 where the speed limit drops from 55 down to 35, not really in town, but its part of the city. Every week they have a list of 10 to 15 people that were given speeding tickets through that section of the road listed in the paper. 95% of them are out of town or out of state drivers.
That's not right, they should have to put up signs or something saying what the speed limit is in a particular area.
 
**** that one in Webster City.
There are or were two one on 20 and another on 17 south of the John Deere dealership. I got stung by both late at night with no one else on the road for miles.
 
As soon as we all realize that the citezenry is nothing more than cash cows to be milked by governments and politicians, everything makes sense. If taxes are insufficient to fill their need they raise fees and fines instead. Always keep your eyes open for the next milking.
 
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Sounds like some of you just need to slow the **** down. And based on what I've observed of those typically speeding the most, put your damn phones down.

Realistically all else equal speeds could probably be increased in some places because you can't tell me cars aren't doing a better job slowing and stopping now vs 40 years ago. However now half of drivers are completely incapable of putting their ******* phones away while they drive.
 
Yeah, let's just ignore the reduction in fatal crashes.

Hope nobody you love gets killed in an accident.
My understanding is that the cities were to supply the "safety data" they had collected to justify re-authorizing the speed cameras. I don't think much data was provided.
 
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Sounds like some of you just need to slow the **** down. And based on what I've observed of those typically speeding the most, put your damn phones down.

Realistically all else equal speeds could probably be increased in some places because you can't tell me cars aren't doing a better job slowing and stopping now vs 40 years ago. However now half of drivers are completely incapable of putting their ******* phones away while they drive.
BS, look at I-35 through Ankeny, its 65 mph through that area and the average vehicle is going 70 or more. Every time we are through there, they have the HW Patrol out issuing tickets. How about raising the speed limit up and stop trying to milk the drivers out of fines.
 
The other articles didn't seem to give specifics in Des Moines.

Cameras were approved at the following 25 sites:

  • 4700 block Interstate 235, eastbound. (This is the city's only approved fixed camera.)
  • 4300 block Ingersoll Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 2800 block SW Ninth Street, northbound and southbound.
  • 1800 block Fleur Drive, northbound and southbound.
  • 300 block E. McKinley Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 2800 block Indianola Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 1700 block Park Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 1600 block E. University Ave, eastbound and westbound.
  • 2200 block E. 29th Street, northbound and southbound.
  • 4800 block Hickman Road, eastbound and westbound.
  • 1000 block SE 14th Street, northbound and southbound.
  • 2900 block Sixth Avenue, northbound and southbound.
  • 3100 block MLK Jr. Parkway, northbound and southbound.
So after the first one, it looks like the rest on this list will be sites that can use a mobile camera and there are no plans to put fixed cameras in those locations.

I was really hoping they would get rid of the one on 235. It's kind of surprising that they didn't since that is the camera that the DOT went to court over with the city of Des Moines a long time ago. I'd love to see the crash stats for that area and how they've changed over time.
 
The other articles didn't seem to give specifics in Des Moines.

Cameras were approved at the following 25 sites:

  • 4700 block Interstate 235, eastbound. (This is the city's only approved fixed camera.)
  • 4300 block Ingersoll Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 2800 block SW Ninth Street, northbound and southbound.
  • 1800 block Fleur Drive, northbound and southbound.
  • 300 block E. McKinley Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 2800 block Indianola Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 1700 block Park Avenue, eastbound and westbound.
  • 1600 block E. University Ave, eastbound and westbound.
  • 2200 block E. 29th Street, northbound and southbound.
  • 4800 block Hickman Road, eastbound and westbound.
  • 1000 block SE 14th Street, northbound and southbound.
  • 2900 block Sixth Avenue, northbound and southbound.
  • 3100 block MLK Jr. Parkway, northbound and southbound.
So after the first one, it looks like the rest on this list will be sites that can use a mobile camera and there are no plans to put fixed cameras in those locations.

I was really hoping they would get rid of the one on 235. It's kind of surprising that they didn't since that is the camera that the DOT went to court over with the city of Des Moines a long time ago. I'd love to see the crash stats for that area and how they've changed over time.

I had figured that they would allow the one on Grand and not the one on 235.
 
Yes, because these cameras were all about safety....Like the one on 235 that has been working for the last decade and there has been zero proof that it's saved one life. We've been down this road before, most are not intended to save lives, they are there to make money and the DOT called them out on it. I trust the DOT's judgement more than jimmy bob mayor in S Town Iowa
If it was about safety, they should put the threshold higher (to where you’re clearly actually dangerous)…and then require the person to either come in for one of those four hour classes where they scare you as to what bad accidents look like/people die…or make them pay $250 if they refuse to attend. I agree - the current system is a revenue play.
 
It was a money grab and has very little to do with public safety. The one in Prairie City was a perfect example of this. I could see them in town, but that one you never went through the town itself.
Bloomfield has a spot on highway 2 where the speed limit drops from 55 down to 35, not really in town, but it’s part of the city. Every week they have a list of 10 to 15 people that were given speeding tickets through that section of the road listed in the paper. 95% of them are out of town or out of state drivers.
Right by the sheriffs office in Bloomfield? They probably attach the radar to the building LOL.
 
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Sounds like some of you just need to slow the **** down. And based on what I've observed of those typically speeding the most, put your damn phones down.

Realistically all else equal speeds could probably be increased in some places because you can't tell me cars aren't doing a better job slowing and stopping now vs 40 years ago. However now half of drivers are completely incapable of putting their ******* phones away while they drive.
I personally don’t have a problem with the speed limits, but I do object to the government doing things like this.

Regarding the phone thing - I get it and don’t disagree…but when I consider how much of an issue it is, I blame technology almost more than the people. They either need to develop something that truly doesn’t allow you to use the phone while calling…or they need to improve the hands-free technology so it’s automatic, seamless, and a great user experience. They’ve got people addicted to phones. They kind of need to fix this…sort of the way we held Phillip Morris accountable for smoking addictions.
 
Right by the sheriffs office in Bloomfield? They probably attach the radar to the building LOL.
Its on that stretch, people come around the curve heading west and before they know it, its down to 35 and they have you. The only worse that this one, is in What Cheer, where they sit at the bottom of the hill and as you drop down it going north, they nail you as you hit the city limits.
 
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It’s on that stretch, people come around the curve heading west and before they know it, it’s down to 35 and they have you. The only worse that this one, is in What Cheer, where they sit at the bottom of the hill and as you drop down it going north, they nail you as you hit the city limits.
Wow. I go past that a lot in Bloomfield. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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