Someone's body not working in a way that allows them to reproduce is part of their health, as is any treatment that helps manage that.
And sometimes those issues cause more problems than just not being able to reproduce.
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Someone's body not working in a way that allows them to reproduce is part of their health, as is any treatment that helps manage that.
I'm happy for you and your family.My insurance doesn't cover IVF. Luckily my wife and I were able to get 6 embryos from one round of IVF. We have 3 kids and the 4th on the way and one miscarriage after the second kid. Now we have one embryo left on ice.
I want to say we spent close to $15,000 for IVF. That cost included fertility meds, doctor appointments, the procedure and transfer on the first kid. For each subsequent embryo transfer it was over $1,500 for doctor visits and fertility drug, and $4,500 the embryo transfers. I believe we have spent between $45,000 and $50,000.
Effectively capping allowable profit margins insure that they have no interest in limiting costs, as the more expensive health care is, the more they make.Most people complaining about the cost of insurance are upset because they see their coverage getting worse each year while insurance companies are profiting Billions each year. UnitedHealth profited something like $40 Billion in 2022.
Nobody argued that. People complain about insurance costs because they see their coverage getting worse each year meanwhile insurance companies are profiting Billions off of them. People are complaining just to complain. It's similar to people getting paid fairly well and still complaining they want a raise.Effectively capping allowable profit margins insure that they have no interest in limiting costs, as the more expensive health care is, the more they make.
I'll fight you over my raise. I will fight you.Nobody argued that. People complain about insurance costs because they see their coverage getting worse each year meanwhile insurance companies are profiting Billions off of them. People are complaining just to complain. It's similar to people getting paid fairly well and still complaining they want a raise.
Same as utilities.Effectively capping allowable profit margins insure that they have no interest in limiting costs, as the more expensive health care is, the more they make.
I'm happy for you and your family.
But that dollar amount is a HUGE yikes to me. I can't say I would have spent it.
Just saying to those people that this is the inevitable result.Nobody argued that. People complain about insurance costs because they see their coverage getting worse each year meanwhile insurance companies are profiting Billions off of them. People are complaining just to complain. It's similar to people getting paid fairly well and still complaining they want a raise.
Personally I don't think companies should be profiting billions off of people's health and misfortune but that's a discussion for another day.Just saying to those people that this is the inevitable result.
Yup. Everyone comes out ahead every year, except the patient.Nobody argued that. People complain about insurance costs because they see their coverage getting worse each year meanwhile insurance companies are profiting Billions off of them.
What? You made a good argument and then made a nonsense argument.People are complaining just to complain. It's similar to people getting paid fairly well and still complaining they want a raise.
You put it in better words than I did.Yup. Everyone comes out ahead every year, except the patient.
What? You made a good argument and then made a nonsense argument.
Were you trying to say that it's similar to getting a raise that is less than inflation? Because that would be a better comparison.
If they weren't, they wouldn't exist, and we'd be paying out of pocket. Of course, health care was a charitable endeavor before insurance existed (and as a result, was more affordable).Personally I don't think companies should be profiting billions off of people's health and misfortune but that's a discussion for another day.
It's possible to exist while also not profiting $40 Billion a year off of people. It's a service, not a good.If they weren't, they wouldn't exist, and we'd be paying out of pocket. Of course, health care was a charitable endeavor before insurance existed (and as a result, was more affordable).
Do you even care about the shareholders!?It's possible to exist while also not profiting $40 Billion a year off of people.