2023-2024 MBB computer projections thread

Cyrealist

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playing these really bad teams will allow a player to work on a skill that needs improving. many of these games are development games and not competitive games.
I agree completely. With the large number of transfers, it provides an opportunity to develop roles and chemistry within the team. A tough opponent may be entertaining for the fans but isn't as good for making the team better. And a good record is good for potential polling and media attention.
 

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I think something that we need to consider with playing these lower tier teams while that doesn't help our SOS it does keep our team a lot more fresh come big 12 play.

The way TJ and Green want us to play defense it can really drain a team and if you look at the past two years our team towards the end of the conferences games looks real tired. I'm honestly fine taking it easy in the non-con. I'd rather have the potential to steal a road win at the end of the year then substitute a couple Q4 wins with some Q3's.
 
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Building on what @CoachHines3 added from KenPom...

We all know these blowouts of inferior teams aren't proving anything, but the computers like it --

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The thing that leaps out at me there is... the #3 team in the Big 12.

Finishing on the podium after Kansas and Houston would be quite the accomplishment.

Again, though, would. Long and hopefully season ahead of us now.
 

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Building on what @CoachHines3 added from KenPom...

We all know these blowouts of inferior teams aren't proving anything, but the computers like it --

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The thing that leaps out at me there is... the #3 team in the Big 12.

Finishing on the podium after Kansas and Houston would be quite the accomplishment.

Again, though, would. Long and hopefully season ahead of us now.
don't mean to hijack your thread!
 
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don't mean to hijack your thread!

It's not "my" thread. It's all of ours for those of us interested in computational analytics of the basketball season. And you're the one with the KenPom subscription, not me, so thanks for sharing.

I'd love to keep seeing it after every game!
 

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Being our Non-Con is so shi*ty, here are current KenPom rankings for teams in the ESPN Invitational (teams listed the way the bracket is laid out)

Penn State - 77
Texas A&M- 21

FAU- 32
Butler- 83

Iowa State- 22
VCU- 109

Boise St- 58
Virginia Tech- 52
 

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Being our Non-Con is so shi*ty, here are current KenPom rankings for teams in the ESPN Invitational (teams listed the way the bracket is laid out)

Penn State - 77
Texas A&M- 21

FAU- 32
Butler- 83

Iowa State- 22
VCU- 109

Boise St- 58
Virginia Tech- 52

So if NET comes anywhere close to those, ISU could pick up a Q1, Q2 and Q3 W if it wins the tournament. And maybe if VCU gets a little better it's two Q2's, if Boise/VaTech climb it could become extra Q1.

That's a TON of "if" so it's way too soon to know. But at least there's more bulk available to help offset the weak half of the non-con.
 

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Untrue. It influences your seeding. And the soft non-con gives you less cushion for losses in the Big 12.

True but imo seeding is getting less and less important if you’re in that 4-11 range. I wish I had data but I feel like time/place is gaining in importance. Like I’d rather be a 6 playing Friday at anytime than a 4 playing at 11 on Thursday. Likewise I’d rather be a 6 playing in a place with a good crowd than a 4 playing in Anaheim. (This is all in terms of first/second rounds)
 

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True but imo seeding is getting less and less important if you’re in that 4-11 range. I wish I had data but I feel like time/place is gaining in importance. Like I’d rather be a 6 playing Friday at anytime than a 4 playing at 11 on Thursday. Likewise I’d rather be a 6 playing in a place with a good crowd than a 4 playing in Anaheim. (This is all in terms of first/second rounds)

And 1-3 can't have ever been more vulnerable than now.

Just get in, get a good matchup and hope to not have your worst offensive game for a team that was already streaky.
 

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True but imo seeding is getting less and less important if you’re in that 4-11 range. I wish I had data but I feel like time/place is gaining in importance. Like I’d rather be a 6 playing Friday at anytime than a 4 playing at 11 on Thursday. Likewise I’d rather be a 6 playing in a place with a good crowd than a 4 playing in Anaheim. (This is all in terms of first/second rounds)
Yeah there is so much more parity now and it's so matchup dependent that a 4 vs a 6 really doesn't matter. Just try and stay off the 8/9 line to avoid a second round matchup with a 1 seed