WVU Eliminating Degree Programs-Future of Higher Ed

[drmwevr08]

The arms race to make the student experience very fancy hadn't helped. I got a cement block dorm and a meal plan. That was about it. Luxury dorms with amenities and fancy new buildings are pricey.

 

[Rabbuk]

Did you read further in the article?

All of this assumes that colleges would have used all their extra funding (or reduced spending) to lower tuition. That’s almost certainly untrue. If schools had more funding available, they likely would have used at least some of it to expand other programs or avoid other cuts. For example, public higher education been staffing many classes with cheaper adjunct and non-tenure-track faculty in recent years. In a world with more generous state funding, many schools almost certainly would have resisted this change, passing part of the cost of additional full-time faculty on to students.

Even given this significant caveat, however, it is clear that state budget cuts dwarf administrative bloat as a cause for rising tuitions. If funding had held steady, universities could have built new buildings, hired more administrators and tended to other priorities while still keeping tuition hikes in check. With huge budget cuts, big tuition increases were inevitable.

That means what alarson said.

 

[CycloneErik]

Is ISU seeing an attendance/admissions decline?

We overextended for a short few years, so there's a decline there. Otherwise, I haven't really kept track.
In this particular case, departments managed their funds well, but the LAS College mismanaged their own by millions, so the departments and faculty members get the axe.

The Dean quietly and successfully retired, though, so all is well.

 

[cycloneG]

Did you read further in the article?

All of this assumes that colleges would have used all their extra funding (or reduced spending) to lower tuition. That’s almost certainly untrue. If schools had more funding available, they likely would have used at least some of it to expand other programs or avoid other cuts. For example, public higher education been staffing many classes with cheaper adjunct and non-tenure-track faculty in recent years. In a world with more generous state funding, many schools almost certainly would have resisted this change, passing part of the cost of additional full-time faculty on to students.

Even given this significant caveat, however, it is clear that state budget cuts dwarf administrative bloat as a cause for rising tuitions. If funding had held steady, universities could have built new buildings, hired more administrators and tended to other priorities while still keeping tuition hikes in check. With huge budget cuts, big tuition increases were inevitable.

I think you're interpretting this backwards.

 

[CycloneErik]

Did you read further in the article?

All of this assumes that colleges would have used all their extra funding (or reduced spending) to lower tuition. That’s almost certainly untrue. If schools had more funding available, they likely would have used at least some of it to expand other programs or avoid other cuts. For example, public higher education been staffing many classes with cheaper adjunct and non-tenure-track faculty in recent years. In a world with more generous state funding, many schools almost certainly would have resisted this change, passing part of the cost of additional full-time faculty on to students.

Even given this significant caveat, however, it is clear that state budget cuts dwarf administrative bloat as a cause for rising tuitions. If funding had held steady, universities could have built new buildings, hired more administrators and tended to other priorities while still keeping tuition hikes in check. With huge budget cuts, big tuition increases were inevitable.

Do you get a receipt for owning yourself?

 

[Cfinnerty16]

I think you're interpretting this backwards.

Yes I did read it backwards.

I'm building a new database view at work right now, leave me alone

 

[Cyclonepride]

Reality comes for us all

 

[CtownCyclone]

On a side note, this has had my attention for a while, and there is likely a simple explanation, but why does Iowa have three times the Accreditation than Iowa State?

IOWA's-

HLC, ACPE, ABA, ADA, APTA, APA, ASHA, CPE, CAHME, CCNE, CELPA, AANA, CEPH, JRCERT, LCME, NASD, NASM, NAST

Iowa State University's

HLC, AAMFT, ADA, APA, AVMA, NASM

Clicking on a few, they look to be for law school, dental school, medical school, etc.

 

[Jnecker4cy]

The arms race to make the student experience very fancy hadn't helped. I got a cement block dorm and a meal plan. That was about it. Luxury dorms with amenities and fancy new buildings are pricey.

I took my son and moved h8m into willow yesterday, those are not luxury by any means, old 1980 cinder block rooms. 4 walls and a window, old bathrooms and showers. Nothing special about most of the dorms at ISU that is for sure.

 

[cycloneG]

State Higher Education Funding Cuts Have Pushed Costs to Students

"Overall state funding for public two- and four-year colleges in the school year ending in 2018 was more than $6.6 billion below what it was in 2008 just before the Great Recession fully took hold, after adjusting for inflation."

 

[simply1]

There goes the B12s academic reputation

 

[keepngoal]

State Higher Education Funding Cuts Have Pushed Costs to Students

"Overall state funding for public two- and four-year colleges in the school year ending in 2018 was more than $6.6 billion below what it was in 2008 just before the Great Recession fully took hold, after adjusting for inflation."

This is the driver for higher tuition costs, decreased funding by the states. It's a feature not a bug.

 

[somecyguy]

I get downvoted whenever I mention but I still believe it to be true. We need to remove the federal govt back stop on student loans. With it, there is no incentive to provide cost effective education. The bank doesn't care because they get paid so the university receives little push back other than some temporary bad publicity when they raise tuition.

Remove the govt and now the bank has to actually analyze things. Now I am no fan of banks, but lower the number of students would at least attempt to force schools to tighten things up.

 

[Cfinnerty16]

State Higher Education Funding Cuts Have Pushed Costs to Students

"Overall state funding for public two- and four-year colleges in the school year ending in 2018 was more than $6.6 billion below what it was in 2008 just before the Great Recession fully took hold, after adjusting for inflation."

I was just looking at this

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Just wait for the two nasty enrollment cliffs coming later this decade and the absolutely massive one in the mid-2030s. We're going to see major, major changes and interruptions on how higher ed works everywhere outside the Sun Belt.

 

[singsing]

West Virginia higher education is an oxymoron.

 

[Antihawk240]

I tell my athletes what I was told by my industrial technology instructor: "The world needs ditch diggers too!" Those ditches are dug by large excavators and the dirt is loaded into large Cat side dumpers. Learn how to drive (or fix) heavy machinery and you can raise a very very nice family. 2 year community college program tops!

 

[Cfinnerty16]

 

[Cfinnerty16]

 

[theshadow]