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Updated odds from this morning. Has us as the favorites, with Texas just behind. But top 6 are starting to break away a bit from the other 4 teams. Would definitely be happy with 12-6 though in conference!

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I feel like at least one of those bottom four is going to really test the bubble hard with a not so stellar conference record.
 

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Ours wasn't great last year either. But if any of those four get hot and get a few good wins, I think any of them still have a chance to get in at least.
I would be surprised given the strength of the league for the committee to not select at least 7 big 12 teams. 7 wins in conference will probably be enough for one or two of the bottom four to get in.
 

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I would be surprised given the strength of the league for the committee to not select at least 7 big 12 teams. 7 wins in conference will probably be enough for one or two of the bottom four to get in.
Yeah, I think you'd be pretty comfortable on Selection Sunday with 7 Big 12 wins.
 

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Updated odds from this morning. Has us as the favorites, with Texas just behind. But top 6 are starting to break away a bit from the other 4 teams. Would definitely be happy with 12-6 though in conference!

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I see we're projected for 12-6 in the BigXII. Did we ever surpass that with Hoiberg? I think I remember a 12-6 year but can't remember if we ever did better than that during his tenure.

Edit: Decided to look it up. Never better than 12-6. Starting in 2010-11 they went 3-13 and then went 12-6, 11-7, 11-7, 12-6. Will be cool to see that level of success again if they can get there this year.
The Royce team went 12-6 but that was with the unbalanced Big 12 schedule I think. We still played A&M and Missouri.
 
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Big 12 should definitely get at least 7.

If you watch any Big 10 games all they talk about is the "murderers row" the conference schedule is. They fail to mention they only have 2 ranked teams and the Big 10 is down alot this year, but they still think they shoukd get 10-11 teams.
They have those two ranked teams, and then a bunch of teams at the Oklahoma State-ish level, and then a couple pretty awful teams at the bottom.
 
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They have those two ranked teams, and then a bunch of teams at the Oklahoma State-ish level, and then a couple pretty awful teams at the bottom.
It’s like a nerd slap fest. A bunch of nerds think the tough nerd is a monster, when the regular people laugh at the nerds and say the tough nerd could be competitive with the rest
 
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So first our regular update --

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And then the Torvik projections for the two things we care the most about --

1.) NCAA tournament seed

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Holding tight onto a #2 seed, maybe in striking distance for a #1 after a slight fade by Kansas. Texas seems slightly odd ahead of the Cyclones, but they did go 2-0 in the Big 12 the past week.

2.) Big 12 regular-season title race

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Iowa State is... the favorite to win the Big 12. Either at least a share (42.4%) or outright (23.4%).

This season is already great. But it could turn into something truly special. Not bad for the second year of the TJ regime with a roster mostly made up of transfers from mid-major programs.
 

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So first our regular update --

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And then the Torvik projections for the two things we care the most about --

1.) NCAA tournament seed

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Holding tight onto a #2 seed, maybe in striking distance for a #1 after a slight fade by Kansas. Texas seems slightly odd ahead of the Cyclones, but they did go 2-0 in the Big 12 the past week.

2.) Big 12 regular-season title race

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Iowa State is... the favorite to win the Big 12. Either at least a share (42.4%) or outright (23.4%).

This season is already great. But it could turn into something truly special. Not bad for the second year of the TJ regime with a roster mostly made up of transfers from mid-major programs.
No idea how they get "favorite to win the Big 12" and "the #5 team in the Big 12" in the same breath. We're tied for first, and beat both teams we are tied with, so to this point, we are at least among the top couple.
 

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No idea how they get "favorite to win the Big 12" and "the #5 team in the Big 12" in the same breath. We're tied for first, and beat both teams we are tied with, so to this point, we are at least among the top couple.

Team Rankings and Bart Torvik have their own rankings. Torvik has Iowa State as the best team in the Big 12, though only barely, with quite the herd coming up behind the Cyclones --

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The Big 12 is bonkers right now. There's no one, superlative team (such as Baylor or Kansas the past few seasons) but so many excellent teams in the range of a #4 to #2 seed. The conference has...

5 of the top 15
7 of the top 26

The worst teams are #52 and #53, which is in the range of a bubble team (or at least the NIT). By this measure, the worst teams in the Big 12 would be middle-tier teams in the Big Ten, and the best teams in the Big 12 would likely be better than everybody in the Big Ten save for Purdue.

Iowa State and Texas are leading the conference race right now because they are the only two squadrons with six wins banked. You can't take those away from the Cyclones or Longhorns. Wins are so hard to come by in the conference that having those locked down leads to an advantageous position.
 

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I don't think KState is a threat to win the conference. They're behind Texas, Kansas, ISU, Baylor and TCU on Kenpom. I think it's a 4 horse race between ISU, TCU, KU and Texas. MAYBE Baylor can sneak in there since they're a lot better with a healthy Cryer.

I also don't really trust Texas since they lost Beard, but they've held the line so far.
 

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This may have been covered but is the mred tournament predictor not a thing this year?
 

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So first our regular update --

View attachment 108758

And then the Torvik projections for the two things we care the most about --

1.) NCAA tournament seed

View attachment 108759

Holding tight onto a #2 seed, maybe in striking distance for a #1 after a slight fade by Kansas. Texas seems slightly odd ahead of the Cyclones, but they did go 2-0 in the Big 12 the past week.

2.) Big 12 regular-season title race

View attachment 108760

Iowa State is... the favorite to win the Big 12. Either at least a share (42.4%) or outright (23.4%).

This season is already great. But it could turn into something truly special. Not bad for the second year of the TJ regime with a roster mostly made up of transfers from mid-major programs.
I dont care about Missouri but we can't follow a huge win like that with a dud in Lubbock. I've seen it way too many times, weeknight in front of a half empty arena against the worst team in the league. Hopefully they are ready.
 

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I dont care about Missouri but we can't follow a huge win like that with a dud in Lubbock. I've seen it way too many times, weeknight in front of a half empty arena against the worst team in the league. Hopefully they are ready.

I'm not saying tank the Missouri game -- winning or losing it probably makes a +/- one line difference in terms of NCAA seeding -- but the Big 12 opportunity is just so real and awesome right now.

Probably a good chance to rest Grill for a week to get him back closer to 100% for TTU.
 

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I don't think KState is a threat to win the conference. They're behind Texas, Kansas, ISU, Baylor and TCU on Kenpom. I think it's a 4 horse race between ISU, TCU, KU and Texas. MAYBE Baylor can sneak in there since they're a lot better with a healthy Cryer.

I also don't really trust Texas since they lost Beard, but they've held the line so far.

Kenpom doesnt show up in the standings... only wins and losses.

KState has wins at Texas & Baylor and has @ ISU and @ TCU game out of way. They only really have @ KU left.

They are very much a threat.