Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Sounds like something this state would do to ISU
I have memberships at several including Ancestry and myheritage and FamilyTreeDNA. I have done extensive DNA tests and have traced several lines to before the 1400s. I currently have over 20,000 people in my family tree on Ancestry. I have seen some interesting things through history, including some wills from the south before the Civil war that just make your jaw drop.
I have 1 line traced back to Ipswitch, Mass in the early 1600s thru the Salem witch trial days. Ive seen where my 2nd Great Grandfather lost his wife and 4 young kids to consumption/TB in the Mid 1800s in Denmark, and was able to remarry and start a new family, to which I descended.
I have a couple lines that link me to the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. Plan on getting a membership to the Sons of the American Revolution.
I love history, I love genealogy, it all fascinates me, especially when you get to the fine details of some of it.
Could be the difference between how they factor it.
Percentage of population
Total number sent
Most deaths
Percentage of total soldiers.
data can be manipulated to give desired outcome.
Wilner is the best for Pac 12 reporting. But he can be blinded too. The Pac California schools have such a lack of interest in the major college sports. Even in LA, nobody talks USC or UCLA football. Why add teams that are not going to give a crap? The Bay area is a pro town too. Big 12 football may not have blue bloods but we have awesome fan interest. No to Stanford and California.
As Chris has noted, coaches are the last to know in realignment. It's all presidential-level stuff. And coaches are who these media types rely upon most as sources because 99% of the time that's who has the information for their sports reporting.
My wife and kids are direct descendants of Clark from Lewis and .Clark fame. My ancestors are day laborers and fishermen from holland. She wins.
Sounds like you married up. That makes you the winner.
My daughter, is a distant DNA match to Dale Earnhardt Jr. When I had her DNA done he showed up as a distant match, I remember a news story about him tracing his ancestry etc. when he showed up on hers I was shocked.
I have not found the connection/common Ancestor yet for them, but hope someday I will. A lot of records in Europe are slowly becoming more available, at least the ones that haven't been destroyed from all the wars.
I could go on forever about ancestry and history, and stories I have found. I probably should have a history degree really or something similar.
The obscure stuff, about the people really is interesting to me.
Like another one of my 2nd Great Grandfathers, killed himself, and the local paper headline read "Man Blew Head off with Shotgun, Driven Insane from Stomach Pain", and the account of the incident was detailed and unbelievable.
That same family had a real Hatfields and Macoys situation. The above mentioned's Cousin Shot his neighbor in a border dispute, but was acquitted of murder, as the killing was deemed Justified, as the neighbor had attacked first etc. And the story and investigation into that was very interesting too, considering both of these happened in the mid 1800's in Iowa.
Sorry I do truly love these details of history, and learning the intricacies of life and relationships in detail from years past. And I can ramble as I am sure many know on here.
He is advocating the Big 12 picking Stanford and California as they are in the Bay area. The Bay area has tons of people but little college sports interest. Fan attendance is lousy too. If that is what it takes to close the deal on the Pac, let's add them though.
Sorry if this has already been posted, but not surprised: Oklahoma State in talks with SEC. The apple doesn't drop too far from the tree.
I've seen rumors for every possible team talking with every other conference in the past week, definitely feel like some of these "journalists" are taking this opportunity to write some click bait to generate clicks while the CFB world is in chaos.
Not much we can do but wait and see which rumors were true
They should be doing this, same way we should be talking to big 10 or SEC too. I suspect they did this as soon as OuT announced ( just like we did to big 10) Doesn’t mean it will happen.
I did not write this but share the opinion:
The question: During a July 6, 2022, appearance on Wichita's Sports Daily on KFH, GoPowercat publisher Tim Fitzgerald was asked by hosts Bruce Haertl and Jacob Albracht about the ongoing push by ESPN and Fox to elevate the SEC and Big Ten into national college football products. Here is how Fitz spontaneously answered on the radio …
“There's a great miscalculation taking place in New York City and Connecticut, wherever the headquarters might be for these entities, in thinking that somehow college football is a national product. It never has been guys. It's a regional product. It's a local product, and the reason why we love it is we're all intertwined.
“If you're an NFL fan, you're gonna watch the NFL because it's all one big entity. It's all one organism. College football is not that way. It never has been that way. We watch Alabama play Georgia, because the schools with which were affiliated, in this case, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Baylor in the last couple of years, have had an opportunity to play on the same field with those teams.
“If you remove that, if you remove any connection the Big 12 champion might have at competing at the highest level, we don't care. We're not going to watch football from the Upper Midwest or the Southeast. This is not how college football has ever been.
“And their misunderstanding of the very essential product that they're trying to buy, and then sell back to the public is stunning to me in its stupidity. This is not going to work. It might work for a while.
“But you guys are in the TV business and may be a little more familiar with these numbers because I think you probably get paid in the billions. That's my understanding. How in the hell — and I know the SEC is popular — but they're talking about $100 million-plus in revenue for each school and they're talking about getting to 20 schools if they can add some ACC programs. How is SEC football worth $2 billion a year to ESPN?
“I don't find the math adding up for myself. I just don't see it. I think it's really, they've screwed this up in their heads.”
The question: During a July 6, 2022, appearance on Wichita's Sports Daily on KFH, GoPowercat publisher Tim Fitzgerald was asked by hosts Bruce Haertl and Jacob Albracht about the ongoing push by ESPN and Fox to elevate the SEC and Big Ten into national college football products. Here is how Fitz spontaneously answered on the radio …
“There's a great miscalculation taking place in New York City and Connecticut, wherever the headquarters might be for these entities, in thinking that somehow college football is a national product. It never has been guys. It's a regional product. It's a local product, and the reason why we love it is we're all intertwined.
“If you're an NFL fan, you're gonna watch the NFL because it's all one big entity. It's all one organism. College football is not that way. It never has been that way. We watch Alabama play Georgia, because the schools with which were affiliated, in this case, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Baylor in the last couple of years, have had an opportunity to play on the same field with those teams.
“If you remove that, if you remove any connection the Big 12 champion might have at competing at the highest level, we don't care. We're not going to watch football from the Upper Midwest or the Southeast. This is not how college football has ever been.
“And their misunderstanding of the very essential product that they're trying to buy, and then sell back to the public is stunning to me in its stupidity. This is not going to work. It might work for a while.
“But you guys are in the TV business and may be a little more familiar with these numbers because I think you probably get paid in the billions. That's my understanding. How in the hell — and I know the SEC is popular — but they're talking about $100 million-plus in revenue for each school and they're talking about getting to 20 schools if they can add some ACC programs. How is SEC football worth $2 billion a year to ESPN?
“I don't find the math adding up for myself. I just don't see it. I think it's really, they've screwed this up in their heads.”
Not sure it would be that brilliant of a move. Sure it could end the Big 12 most likely but the BIG doesn’t want anyone else from the Big 12.
The Big 12 remaining teams then likely go to the PAC-12 since the reports have been option 1 for most schools out there to try and keep the PAC-12 alive.
A real counter move would be for the SEC to grab Oregon for sure and maybe Washington or someone else out there thus officially hampering the BIG going that way for any other partners with USC and UCLA. Or really crazy would be ESPN getting the ACC opened up to push Florida State, Clemson, etc. to the SEC now and make the BIG show their hand there. But as several have mentioned the ACC is likely the ground ESPN is trying to navigate to be the third conference in the P3, so who knows.
Just my opinion as the SEC doesn’t gain much of anything with Okie State since they got the real fish in OU.
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I don't think ESPN wants to increase the size of the ACC either. That would bring the TV contract back to negotiation. So can the ACC be a P3 with the members they have? I personally don't think so.
So I think we end up with a P4 scenario until the ACC contract is up in 10 years from now. It'll be in reality P2 + P2 lite, but the Big12/PAC and the ACC will still have a seat at the table even if it'll be a kids seat.
