Sounds like Nebraska before the super league even starts.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Sounds like Nebraska before the super league even starts.
When does vandy or northwestern get the first pick of the draft? Could you imagine being the lions and only being able to do free agent signings? No one would go there.
Here is the difference. In the college scenario, I am an Iowa State fan. I will follow ISU and the teams at their level. If teams break off, I won’t care about them. I am not unique. If I want higher level football, I will watch NFL. This will be lower level than NFL and we know how exclusive leagues lower than the NFL have done.
When do they get those 1st round picks in any college football configuration?
The question was originally whether P2 is a better setup. It is. Could you imagine the NFL expanding to 65+ teams, having huge revenue disparity, AND no draft.
At least with a top-40 or top-48 P2 of more equal revenue sharing and making at least twice as much as non-P2s, the Vandy's and NWs are in a much better recruiting position than now. Right now they could lose recruits to schools outside the top-40/top-48. In the future, they'll get kids just because they're a P2. They may not still pass the top programs, but they stand a much better chance than now- P2 with NIL erodes the monopolistic moats of history, tradition, and geography.
Plus the families are going to lose out too.
Say you live in Southern California and your kid plays for one of the two schools.
Your closest away game is Nebraska?
Ask Tennessee what? Have they been turned down by the Big 12?
Tennessee rather lose in the P5 SEC than join the Big 12, and most definitely rather lose in the P2 than be on the outside.
I followed ISU through some very lean years in the 80's and 90's. Not once did I want the program to drop down to the FCS.
I don't think any AD in America thinks the ACC is going to be around after 2036. Maybe much sooner. Since ND will NEVER join the ACC as a football program AND if they don't view the SEC as an option, then why not join the Big10?
The one thing ND can be sure of, the Big10 will take Notre Dame at any time. So they can chart their own path. I believe Notre Dame's agreement with NBC/Peacock ends summer 2025. So they would be smart to test the waters - what is the Big10's offer and also asking NBC to come up with an offer for a 5 or 10 year deal.
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I agree. Although the BIG has positioned themselves with a much better offer than ever before, ND is not pressured by missing out.
They do want/need to get P2 money. If the SEC can not provide a solution similar to the ACC but at better pay, I think they go to the BIG.
No one said anything about leaving SEC. Tennessee found out that not everyone can be the top dog. They thought they were elite. Two top dogs fight and only one top dog remains. Simple math.
I am sick of all the silly speculation and somebody’s cousins dentist nephew heard some chatter. What a circus - the B1G and SEC want all the money for themselves. Think Brando called it a crime family scheme of corruption. He is right - the criminals in charge of those dirty schools and conferences know it is money - athletics ( football) is the proverbial drug. They care nothing of the game - just the result in their filthy pockets. Since they can pay players in the open they saw the filthy lucre and were besotted. May they all die on their greed!
So you agree, that schools rather lose in the top conference or tier than move down for more more certainty on wins? If so, why are you assuming it is not known that not everyone can be the top dog?
Your Tennessee example is particularly poor. You think they thought they would never have down years? Well that was going to be a surprise for them regardless of conference setups.
Tennessee fell off over a decade ago. It has nothing to do with realignment, and everything to do with coaching changes.
Everyone knows the math, everyone agrees that math is meaningless when it is better to struggle in the P2 than be outside the P2. Those are the only two options.
So again, what exactly are we asking Tennessee?
Math is not meaningless and teams don’t want to struggle anywhere. Most will expect to win, but some will lose. And when they do, they will have backlash from fans and fire coaches.
You are confused as to how NIL (cash) is much more fungible than history and location? NIL is much more opportunistic and open market than college football has ever been. It is not just the draft as to why the NFL has more parity than college football. The NFL pays players to attract talent.
And we'll ignore the naivety of "schools can't pay NIL" even though there are many ways to funnel a $50+ million advantage in annual conference revenue to NIL. If nothing else ADs can just as donors to instead fund NIL because the AD just got a P2 paycheck.
It would be great if schools get busted for paying NIL like you assume they are doing.
What if Alabama started saying they were going to start earning $200M per year, while only giving Tennessee $50M.
While looking at an outside conference where everyone makes the same say $70M....What happens then?
