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ClonesFTW

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Seeing some brackets on BracketMatrix being updated this morning to us playing North Carolina in Greenville - that would not be ideal.
 
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Seeing some brackets on BracketMatrix being updated this morning to us playing North Carolina in Greenville - that would not be ideal.
The one positive is North Carolina doesn’t scare me at all. Certainly it would be a toss up, but could be worse. Take the Duke game out of it for UNC due to the whole rivalry thing, and they have been pedestrian against good teams.
 

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What the Hell ESPN....
ISU loses AT #3 Baylor(prob a 1 Seed), by a few points.
Heck, ISU was in the lead, later in the 2nd half......

ESPN- Yep, "Bad Loss", lets drop them down another seed line.............wtf
Be better Lunardi!
 
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dahliaclone

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What the Hell ESPN....
ISU loses AT #3 Baylor(prob a 1 Seed), by a few points.
Heck, ISU was in the lead, later in the 2nd half......

ESPN- Yep, "Bad Loss", lets drop them down another seed line.............wtf
Be better Lunardi!
He's just off with some teams. Iowa is no better than a 7 right now and he has them a 6. Iowa State is arguably a 7 as well but probably an 8 at worst and he has them a 9.
 

dahliaclone

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Palm still makes the most sense in terms of where he's seeding teams (not picking necessarily who gets in and where). He's clearly basing his seeds off the fact that the committee's top 16 unveil a few weeks ago was VERY Q1 heavy.

 

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I sure as hell hope the committee doesn't put half of the Big 12 teams in one region with another region having zero. This is a year that the league could have a real good showing in the tournament - it would be a shame for league teams to be knocking each other out early.
 

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I sure as hell hope the committee doesn't put half of the Big 12 teams in one region with another region having zero. This is a year that the league could have a real good showing in the tournament - it would be a shame for league teams to be knocking each other out early.

I think the fact that the Big 12 is one of the few conferences that plays a double round robin will help in this regard. Teams that have already played twice can't meet in the Tournament prior to Sweet 16.
 
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He's just off with some teams. Iowa is no better than a 7 right now and he has them a 6. Iowa State is arguably a 7 as well but probably an 8 at worst and he has them a 9.

What the Hell ESPN....
ISU loses AT #3 Baylor(prob a 1 Seed), by a few points.
Heck, ISU was in the lead, later in the 2nd half......

ESPN- Yep, "Bad Loss", lets drop them down another seed line.............wtf
Be better Lunardi!
ISU ended on two losses, with the second to last being terrible. Dropping after Baylor is paying for the OSU loss twice. IMO, OSU was such a bad loss that I'm okay with it.
 

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ISU ended on two losses, with the second to last being terrible. Dropping after Baylor is paying for the OSU loss twice. IMO, OSU was such a bad loss that I'm okay with it.
I wouldn't say losing to Okie St is a terrible loss. It was awful to watch for sure, but it's not like losing to Nebraska at home or something.

Lunardi's lazy with his seeding. He just looks at who wins or loses on a given day, then moves the winners up a seed line and the losers down one, regardless of the opponent.

The Baylor game is not going to hurt our seeding at all and I really don't think Okie St did either.

I really think our Quad 1 & 2 will carry the day and get us on the 6 or 7 line regardless of if we win or lose vs Tech.

I do think a win vs Tech could get us trending more on the the 6 line though. But 6 & 7 are basically the same anyway, so...
 
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What the Hell ESPN....
ISU loses AT #3 Baylor(prob a 1 Seed), by a few points.
Heck, ISU was in the lead, later in the 2nd half......

ESPN- Yep, "Bad Loss", lets drop them down another seed line.............wtf
Be better Lunardi!
He probably watched the first 10 minutes.
 

NiceMarmot

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My bracket for today after this weekend's games.

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If Iowa State loses to Texas Tech and stays in that 8/9 range, our first round opponent will likely be one of the following teams.
  • North Carolina
  • San Diego State
  • Michigan State
  • Marquette
  • Miami
  • Murray State
  • Boise State
  • Notre Dame/Wake Forest if they climb to 9-seed. Same with Michigan.
We can't play Creighton or TCU obviously. Marquette can't play Creighton, UNC can't play Miami, San Diego State can't play Boise State. ISU or TCU can't be in Baylor's pod (or Kansas if they are a 1-seed). Michigan State also can't play in Baylor or KU's pod. So it would not be surprising at all to see Michigan State playing either ISU or TCU.

Get ready for being in Gonzaga, Arizona, or Auburn's pod if we are 8/9, likely playing one of those above teams. If we beat TT and are a 7, obviously a ton more options available for both 1st/2nd round draws.
 

dahliaclone

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My bracket for today after this weekend's games.

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If Iowa State loses to Texas Tech and stays in that 8/9 range, our first round opponent will likely be one of the following teams.
  • North Carolina
  • San Diego State
  • Michigan State
  • Marquette
  • Miami
  • Murray State
  • Boise State
  • Notre Dame/Wake Forest if they climb to 9-seed. Same with Michigan.
We can't play Creighton or TCU obviously. Marquette can't play Creighton, UNC can't play Miami, San Diego State can't play Boise State. ISU or TCU can't be in Baylor's pod (or Kansas if they are a 1-seed). Michigan State also can't play in Baylor or KU's pod. So it would not be surprising at all to see Michigan State playing either ISU or TCU.

Get ready for being in Gonzaga, Arizona, or Auburn's pod if we are 8/9, likely playing one of those above teams. If we beat TT and are a 7, obviously a ton more options available for both 1st/2nd round draws.
Isn't it possible because of the exact reasoning you laid out that a team (not even saying Iowa State) from the 8/9 seed lines you predict might be moved to the 7 line due to scheduling problems?
 

NiceMarmot

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Isn't it possible because of the exact reasoning you laid out that a team (not even saying Iowa State) from the 8/9 seed lines you predict might be moved to the 7 line due to scheduling problems?

That is possible, but it is an absolute last resort if there are no other alternatives. An example, maybe a week or so ago, my 10-seeds were Miami, North Carolina, Wake Forest, and Notre Dame, and I had Duke as a 2-seed. In that scenario, one of those teams would be dropped to an 11 and an 11 would have came up to the 10-line to find a non-ACC 10-seed to put in Duke's first weekend pod.

But it doesn't look like there will be any scenarios in which one conference will have 5 teams across first weekend pod matchups, meaning 5 teams from one conference in following seed buckets: 1/16/8/9, 4/13/5/12, 6/11/3/14, or 7/10/2/15.

That ACC scenario I described above is the most likely. The Big 12 could have 4, with Baylor and KU both being 1-seeds and ISU/TCU both potentially being 8/9 seeds. But when the committee is bracketing and get to the 8/9 matchups, they would first drop ISU in Gonzaga or Arizona's pod, put TCU in the other, and then move on from there.
 
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drmwevr08

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How does Rutgers stack up with all this quad 1 talk? They have fewer overall wins than ISU and fewer quad ones but are apparently a loss from being out even with 2 or 3 times as many Q1 as other bubbles. I suppose there's a limit to the Q1's power?
 

dahliaclone

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Lunardi is losing it. He tweeted his seed list and has Iowa State a 9 seed which is whatever. But, in my opinion, the teams he has as 7/8/9 seeds ahead of Iowa State have NOTHING on our resume.

He has Boise State, Michigan State, Murray State, TCU, Memphis, and North Carolina all ahead of us. I personally think he's gonna be off on a lot of his predicted seeds. He seems to NOT be taking Q1 wins into account like the committee did in their top 16 unveil.

He and Palm are really contrasting on a lot of teams in the 7-10 seeds. I know they're not the best at this, just trying to show how crazy these 6-11 seeds are gonna be.
  • Palm has UNC an 11; Lunardi an 8
  • Palm has Marquette a 9; Lunardi a 7
  • Palm has Memphis an 11; Lunardi a 9
  • Palm has Iowa State a 7; Lunardi second to last 9

 
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cyclonepower

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Lunardi is losing it. He tweeted his seed list and has Iowa State a 9 seed which is whatever. But, in my opinion, the teams he has as 7/8/9 seeds ahead of Iowa State have NOTHING on our resume.

He has Boise State, Michigan State, Murray State, TCU, Memphis, and North Carolina all ahead of us. I personally think he's gonna be off on a lot of his predicted seeds. He seems to NOT be taking Q1 wins into account like the committee did in their top 16 unveil.

He and Palm are really contrasting on a lot of teams in the 7-10 seeds. I know they're not the best at this, just trying to show how crazy these 6-11 seeds are gonna be.
  • Palm has UNC an 11; Lunardi an 8
  • Palm has Marquette a 9; Lunardi a 7
  • Palm has Memphis an 11; Lunardi a 9
  • Palm has Iowa State a 7; Lunardi second to last 9


while I typically agree with Lukas Harkins who is the #3 bracketologist has us as the last #9...

 

dahliaclone

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while I typically agree with Lukas Harkins who is the #3 bracketologist has us as the last #9...

Yep but then another really 'good' expert Jonathon Warriner tweeted that he think ISU is really hard to pick but can see them actually being a 7 seed even with a loss to TT. He currently has ISU an 8 but still said that about us being a 7 so who knows.

I personally think we are probably the 1st or 2nd 8 seed right now. Win on Thursday and we are like the last 7 seed. Lose and we stay 8. Win Thursday AND Friday and we're on the 7/6 line and depends what other teams do.
 

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