That’s really too close to know. The part that looks over the line are actually reflections, not his foot. His foot is too close to tell.
Unlike the goaltend that could have been called from the worst seat in the WWE arena.
Officiating travesty in Lawrence
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That’s really too close to know. The part that looks over the line are actually reflections, not his foot. His foot is too close to tell.
Unlike the goaltend that could have been called from the worst seat in the WWE arena.
Yeah, I saw that after I re-read some posts. We are in agreement that is textbook moving screen. Thanks.
So what you are saying now is that since KU benefitted from a bunch of other moving screens in the game that it is not fair for them to get called on one so close to the end of the game? Please elaborate.
Go back and watch it. I’m sure establishing post position was the original intent. Until the pass was tipped and he started to move the other direction, away from the basket and towards the top of the key.
Saying “watch your elbows” is absurd. I agree that intent does not matter, but the question is whether or not you’re moving them in a typical manner.
Yeah my coworkers in CA who are pro sports fans with no fan investment in college basketball didn’t believe me at lunch one day so I pulled up the video.
They were just flabbergasted as to why they didn’t take it off the board. To this day I don’t get why it was any more valid than a shot a player takes after a foul call or a turnover or a shot clock violation or during halftime or during warmups.
We should do some kind of statistical analysis of the objectively incorrect calls and their influence on every team's probability of winning. You could probably find a way to just check the numbers from those games verses objectively well called games and use Benford's law to see if there are any irregularities. I think it's obvious there is discrepancy. The really interesting thing would be proving it was implicit bias/institutional bias.
You’re missing the point. People on here are laying blame solely on a missed goal tending call and flagrant foul call. My point is that we missed easy shots (and not to mention too many free throws) where we could have won the game even with those controversial calls.
You’re going way too far implying that expectation is that we need to play a mistake free game to deserve to win.
i get what you think is “a point”.
It’s super dumb.
ISU doesn’t have to play flawless for the refs to screw them any more than KU had to be flawless to win.
You’re seeing an unfair reality and your mind is employing a coping mechanism to protect itself.
KU made a boatload of mistakes.
AND, that really wasn't a moving screen so much as a running screen. You can't let that go anytime during the game. OTHERWISE the officials impartiality would be called into question.
The difference here is the missed goaltend (completely and objectively wrong / missed call that is called 9 out of 10 times correctly) and your moving screen, which was correctly called and you just don't think it should have been because.........it never gets called.
Really?
Both can be true. There can be missed calls that can make it harder for ISU to win. ISU could also clean up some of the little things that could have led to a win despite it being a little harder. ISU had way too many unforced turnovers in this game. That gives KU more possessions and takes away ISU possessions. Those are huge in what turns out to be a one possession game.
To make things worse, a foul wasn't even called. The refs decided to review the play and THEN called a foul. I don't ever remember that happening without a whistle being blown on the 'offense' in question.
You’re clearly an idiot. We can’t make the number of completely self inflicted mistakes that we do and then just complain about a goaltending call.
and coping mechanism? Seriously? Blaming the game completely in the officiating is a coping mechanism?
melt me ask you this. What do you think the coaching staff is going to do in film session? Review the Jones flagrant and the goaltend? Or go back and point out little things we could have done to swing the game many points in the other direction?
I will be quiet and wait for your answer.
The officiating was a disaster, but we left easy points on the table elsewhere all on our own.
The people who acknowledge reality of blown calls determining the game will also acknowledge the team could have had some other chances.
There’s about 1 in 4 fans who just think officials are never the factor because a team could always have been more flawless to overcome it.
It’s nonsense.
ISU very likely wins the game if the most obvious calls are made correctly…even with all their mistakes. KU still gets a win even though they made a ton of mistakes.
Its self delusion.
I'll watch the KU game during the Big12 tourney sometimes. Regular season games? No, especially not in Lawrence. No way.
This conference engages in such favoritism towards KU it is embarrassing. I just can't do it anymore.
I was sitting courtside during the "shudder" McDermott years once for the KU game. I started loudly mocking the refs because it was 13 minutes into the game and they hadn't yet called a foul on KU. Jason Whitlock was sitting nearby and just started laughing loud enough that the refs heard it.
Sure enough, next possession, finally, a KU foul. Loud Bronx cheer from the crowd.
I was in Phog for the infamous banked 3 and Niang Technical game. That still hurts.
Still proud of the effort of the team. That would have been a marquis win, which is why they couldn't let ISU have it.
Also, imagine coming to a rival's board and defending this obvious favoritism. Pathetic. Makes every early KU exit in the tourney where they don't even play to their seed all the more enjoyable.
more irrational coping mechanisms
Of course the team is going to work to get better. That has nothing to do with the simple fact that ISU likely wins the game…even with all of their mistakes…if the most obvious and easy calls are made correctly.
Live in reality dude.
You’re making these mutually exclusive points. I never said the calls weren’t atrocious. They were.
the only self delusion is focusing entirely on 2 calls that go against you in a 40 minute basketball game. Anyone that knows anything about basketball knows damn well going into that game you’ve got to be at least 6 points better than KU to actually pull out a win there. It sucks, but it’s true.
The reality is that KU is going to get calls at home. Everyone knows this. You’ve got to be at least 6-8 points better than them to actually pull out a game in the Phog because the refs are going to give them nearly that many or possibly worse. That is reality and unfortunately everyone in the league lives it.
Blown obvious goal tending happened.
ISU would of, could of, should of is wishful thinking. KU doesn’t have to forfeit a win because they threw the ball out of bounds to nobody nine times.
But your fragile mind can be protected from the simple fact that **** just isn’t fair quite often. I envy you.
It's probably one Kansas fan. I know that randomfam/tuco has at least one other alias.
If I played CBB and I was a shorter guy I would just try to run in to big guy elbows all of the time.
