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I really enjoyed Wandavision because it was so different and you weren't quite sure what was happening. But I also think it would be the least rewatchable of the series since all the mystery is gone

I rewatched it last week starting at episode 4. It’s still great, but I do feel episodes 1 and 2 are extremely hard to rewatch.

Going to Spider-Man tonight!
 
Is there any reasons to see Eternals? (regarding anything in No Way Home)

I haven't yet.

Haven't seen No Way Home yet, so I defer to what others have said there. As for whether you need to see Eternals for other purposes, I'd highly recommend. There is likely no urgency to it, but the scope of that film and its future ramifications is likely as big as any MCU movie we've seen thus far, therefore whether you end up liking the movie or not, you really should probably see it. Shoot, I didn't even necessarily love the movie myself nor all its ramifications, but they are ramifications which will be felt in the MCU. Compare all this to a movie like Black Widow, which I liked and recommend people see it, but its scope and essentiality to watch in order to understand future movies is likely pretty low.
 
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Haven't seen No Way Home yet, so I defer to what others have said there. As for whether you need to see Eternals for other purposes, I'd highly recommend. There is likely no urgency to it, but the scope of that film and its future ramifications is likely as big as any MCU movie we've seen thus far, therefore whether you end up liking the movie or not, you really should probably see it. Shoot, I didn't even necessarily love the movie myself nor all its ramifications, but they are ramifications which will be felt in the MCU. Compare all this to a movie like Black Widow, which I liked and recommend people see it, but its scope and essentiality to watch in order to understand future movies is likely pretty low.
Black Widow was good. It just seemed like the entire point and purpose of "Black Widow" was to introduce another character. It seemed like, in many ways, essentially another character's origin film vs a movie about Black Widow. Not a knock necessarily, just not what I totally expected. I would argue that you do need to see Black Widow, for this purpose.
 
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Black Widow was good. It just seemed like the entire point and purpose of "Black Widow" was to introduce another character. It seemed like, in many ways, essentially another character's origin film vs a movie about Black Widow. Not a knock necessarily, just not what I totally expected. I would argue that you do need to see Black Widow, for this purpose.

I tend to agree, but I'd say the best part of that movie by far is seeing Red Guardian. He is worth watching the movie alone.
 
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I tend to agree, but I'd say the best part of that movie by far is seeing Red Guardian. He is worth watching the movie alone.
I'd say Yelena was worth it, too. As we saw in Hawkeye Ep 5, her interactions with other people are fun to watch. Honestly, Natasha was the least interesting character in her own film. Part of that I feel is from her character becoming too Westernized by her time with SHIELD and the Avengers. The rest of her "family" still exhibits strong Russian traits, making them more interesting to watch.
 
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After this recent talk of whether or not to watch certain movies, it got me thinking what the most skippable Marvel Studios MCU movie/TV show is? I'm talking about from a ramifications to other movies/shows standpoint. I'd personally argue the winner would be Iron Man 3. Shoot, even the ending of that movie where Tony blows up all his suits was completely ignored in later movies. What do you guys think?
 
After this recent talk of whether or not to watch certain movies, it got me thinking what the most skippable Marvel Studios MCU movie/TV show is? I'm talking about from a ramifications to other movies/shows standpoint. I'd personally argue the winner would be Iron Man 3. Shoot, even the ending of that movie where Tony blows up all his suits was completely ignored in later movies. What do you guys think?

Both IM 2 & 3, don't do a whole lot of heavy lifting as far as the overall narrative. The biggest thing from both of them was a new element for the arc reactor so Tony doesn't die and getting to permanently remove the arc reactor so Tony doesn't die. IM 2 is only more important as it introduces some key characters, but they could have easily shown up elsewhere.
 
It's hard because it all blends together for me after awhile.

Incredible Hulk for sure. I'd guess a large percentage of mcu fans never saw this one anyway.

I want to say thor 2 and guardians of the galaxy 2.

Black Panther is a good standalone movie but it could probably be missed as it's ramifications were mostly contained to wakanda (sure, they began sharing that tech, but it hasn't really played much of a role)
 
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It's hard because it all blends together for me after awhile.

Incredible Hulk for sure. I'd guess a large percentage of mcu fans never saw this one anyway.

I want to say thor 2 and guardians of the galaxy 2.

Black Panther is a good standalone movie but it could probably be missed as it's ramifications were mostly contained to wakanda (sure, they began sharing that tech, but it hasn't really played much of a role)

I get why people would say Incredible Hulk, but for anyone who has never seen a Hulk movie, it does tell his origin story, which is more important in my mind than anything that happens in Iron Man 3. As for Thor 2, what that movie does with Loki's character is far more important that what it does with Thor's. I could see GOTG2 being a candidate, even though it does introduce Manta and does further both Peter's and Gamorra's relationship. As for Black Panther, I discount that as a good option simply due to how many new ongoing characters that movie introduces.
 
Both IM 2 & 3, don't do a whole lot of heavy lifting as far as the overall narrative. The biggest thing from both of them was a new element for the arc reactor so Tony doesn't die and getting to permanently remove the arc reactor so Tony doesn't die. IM 2 is only more important as it introduces some key characters, but they could have easily shown up elsewhere.

Yeah, introducing Black Widow in Iron Man 2 is a big one for me there. Plus, it does further Tony and Pepper's relationship more than Iron Man 3 does.
 
I feel like Incredible Hulk is going to be way more important going forward with She-Hulk. Even abomination is back now
 
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I get why people would say Incredible Hulk, but for anyone who has never seen a Hulk movie, it does tell his origin story, which is more important in my mind than anything that happens in Iron Man 3. As for Thor 2, what that movie does with Loki's character is far more important that what it does with Thor's. I could see GOTG2 being a candidate, even though it does introduce Manta and does further both Peter's and Gamorra's relationship. As for Black Panther, I discount that as a good option simply due to how many new ongoing characters that movie introduces.

Thor 2 also has added relevance of introducing the reality stone (aether) to the MCU.
 
I feel like a lot of this is missing the point though. The standards some of y'all are applying make every movie important. Every movie adds something to the overall story.
 
This is a bit of a spoiler for the mid-credit scene for No Way Home.

So the mid-credit scene is Tom Hardy Venom in Mexico in the MCU. This was apparently teased at the end of the second Venom movie. In No Way Home, the other villains get transported to the MCU because they knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man in their own universe. I've not seen the second Venom, but as far as I know, Tom Hardy Venom never knew Peter Parker/Spider-Man, so I'm not sure why he was pulled into the MCU from the Dr. Strange spell.
 
Just got home from the theater. No Way Home might just be my favorite MCU film to date. Wow, they lived up to the hype and then some. It's great to see Holland finally grow into the role (not his fault it hadn't happened sooner, the writing of the first two films just wouldn't allow for it), and I'm very excited for where they take the character going forward.
 
This is a bit of a spoiler for the mid-credit scene for No Way Home.

So the mid-credit scene is Tom Hardy Venom in Mexico in the MCU. This was apparently teased at the end of the second Venom movie. In No Way Home, the other villains get transported to the MCU because they knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man in their own universe. I've not seen the second Venom, but as far as I know, Tom Hardy Venom never knew Peter Parker/Spider-Man, so I'm not sure why he was pulled into the MCU from the Dr. Strange spell.

I think this is a pretty gnawing plot hole.

The only purpose of it was to introduce the possibility of the symbiote in the MCU. The logic of how Venom made it to the MCU is faulty. They will clearly say “well he knows who Peter Parker is because he saw him on TV in the post-credits scene in Venom 2” but that would imply that he already made the inter-dimensional trip… which following the logic of NWH’s explanation of Dr. Strange’s spell, doesn’t make sense continuity-wise.