Official SDSU Meltdown Thread
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Disagree 100%. LE was a great coach who got his throat cut after he was already taking steps to fix his problem.
LE at the helm, with JH, JV, CS, and WB, we play in the final four.
This is a tough time to be a cyclone fan. We need to stick with it because there is a light at the end of the tunnel, i believe it! I'll throw a little Harvey Dent from Batman in here. "The Day is the darkest just before the dawn, and believe me, the dawn is coming" I will live and die a cyclone and i hope the rest of you will as well
Haha, a full recant I will not. I good deal of this could be frustration, you are right. Lets just put it this way, if I were to get tickets as a present Thursday night I would probably attend that game. But if I was at home bored on a game night, I would more than likely think of the 45 minute drive to Ames, how many cases of Natty Lite 60 bucks could buy me (the approximate cost of a ticket for my fiance and I), how painful it was to watch the SDSU game, and finally how empowering it is to have a remote which allows me the privlidge of turning off that crap as I please. I will not go out of my way to attend, but if I were to get the tickets for free I would probably go.
Now on to another rant:
All this fire Jamie Pollard stuff is kind of uncalled for in my book. If my recollection is correct, not many people here were against the McD hire initiatially. Hindsight is 20/20 my friends. Also, lets look at the other candidates:
Jeff Lebo bombed at Auburn.
The guy from Wyomming got fired I believe.
Rob Jeter is still at UW-Mil as far as I know, and we beat them so they SUCK.
UNLV has fallen off the map a bit.
Please give JP a break. Of all the names out there he got what seemed to be a good fit, what has proved not to be a good fit, and hopefully will realize this mistake sooner than later, and move quickly on getting us a coach that can win.
Ah, just do it. Its cathartic! Recant i say! Not to your frustration, but to the 'i'll never'!!! Actually, you did w/your last post. But i hear you on how you feel.
Actually, i like McD and think he's gonna be a great long-term fit. but we gotta have faith. Which is REALLY FREAKIN HARD when you lose to SDSU. I mean really. I have a longer fuse to burn....understand what the Nation is saying...but i have more faith to give > 3 years. We've become such a 'what can you do for me in 2 years or less' culture. anyway - my mini-rant.
We'll get there dude.
I think someone else pointed this out in an earlier thread but it seems like Lucca is the only one that gives a crap about winning. Which is sad. I feel sorry for him more than anything. He stuck it out for us.
Very well done. JP in my book is a solid guy, but as he said in his speech, "we have to deliver". At some point you would think the state of our two revenue-driving sports would have to reflect badly on him if they don't turnaround. However, lest we forget that part of hiring a coach is supporting him the best we can until there is reason to believe the partnership is beyond repair. Ok, now I'm getting off topic from my initial response to you....anyways, I hope McD can stem the negative tide and turn it around, but until then I'm kind of like you. I'm going to have a hard time going out of my way to attend games, because for me its been less "entertainment", and more like an ulcer to watch this.
In order to help me in my full redaction of my previous statement, and since you appear to see something in McD I dont see, can you enlighten me on what strategy you see? This team seems to have no direction, and McD has no visible strategy in his gameplans and recruiting. It was said best by my friend who was watching this game with me, "There is nothing we are good at." Some teams are good at shooting threes, some teams like to play through the post, some teams try to control the boards and play defense, some teams recruit athletes and rely on their superior athletic ability. What the **** is it that we do? We don't defend well, dont rebound well, don't shoot exceptionally well, Craig is off and on in the post, we don't get out in transition, we don't press, we don't run great set plays, we can't penetrate well. What is it McD is focusing on, what is it he sees in this team and how is he steering our gameplan towards the strengths of his players? I just dont see it.
Very well done. JP in my book is a solid guy, but as he said in his speech, "we have to deliver". At some point you would think the state of our two revenue-driving sports would have to reflect badly on him if they don't turnaround. However, lest we forget that part of hiring a coach is supporting him the best we can until there is reason to believe the partnership is beyond repair. Ok, now I'm getting off topic from my initial response to you....anyways, I hope McD can stem the negative tide and turn it around, but until then I'm kind of like you. I'm going to have a hard time going out of my way to attend games, because for me its been less "entertainment", and more like an ulcer to watch this.
Whew! Again, i dead-seriously mean you really have an intelligent, analytical view. So i won't argue back-n-forth (esp since i didn't see the game tonight...thank GOD).
Here's my silver linings. Because i can't dispel how well your friend put it ...and its in comparison TO the previous head coach and similar to LE (who i love...i know, i know.). He gets more outta less vs. less outta more. Yes, he's getting 'non-Big XII players', but i think he actually teaches them vs. saying 'playground-it!'. The hard part for me to defend is how poorly we've played on defense. People think we're worse on offense and i get that....but i also see the exodus of non-team players who were our offensive nucleus over the past 3 years. Thats hard to replace. But the defense....i watched the Drake game in HORROR over the last 8 minutes. Awful.
Where was I? Oh. We still are not even close to the talent level to consistently execute what your friend noted. Blame the exodus. Blame recruiting. BUT, seems like this guy is a system-coach...and he still doesn't have the people in place to run his system. When he does and doesn't perform then...well, open season my boy. I'll be right there w/you. As it stands we have a lot of guys who i believe he wouldn't have out there if he didn't have to (read: not guys to run his system).
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I thought we were just a young team and to give Mcdermott time? I thought you also said in the past ISU as always struggled and that Mcdermott is getting this program turned around. Also I didn't GIVE up after the UC Davis game, I just said it would be a long season and that McDermott doesnt belong to coach in the Big 12. You got pissed at me for making that comment and said that this is 3rd year, you said that with players transfering and are best player Wes Johnson leaving that I cant just expect McDermott to turn everything around. After asking what you predict where we finish this year you said a little below .500 but next year we will improve. So yes I do think your a hypocrite, you knew we werent going to be good and you knew of are struggles, but now you decided to give up on Mcdermott. I thought you were a loyal guy? You can't at the beginning of the season saying McDermott is the man for ISU and then not even mid season call for his job. That in my book is a hypocrite.
I haven't given up on him, he deserve this year and next year. But if he can't start turning around the results, something needs to be done. Well good for you forwhat you think of me. I know where I stand. I am a Loyal guy actually, hence why I will still be going to the games cheering my loudest. You're one to judge loyalty. How was leaving the football games early and at half and not going for the whole basketball games? Also calling out polllard already? Yeah some loyalty you have. I heard Dmacc could use some loyal fans, maybe you should try there.
Ask the other 30,000 fans why they decided to leave the football games early. Basketball game was at 12:00 in the afternoon, just woke up at 11:00, hungry as hell so I left to get something to eat, wanted to come back but will not allow you to reenter. To say you want McDermott gone is giving up on him. To say he can't run an offense is giving up on him. Now your going back and saying he DESERVES this year and nexts after just saying after having some insight the guy cant coach.. cmon now
You've missed more then that, and last time i checked missouri was the only game when 30,000 people left early. Out of curiousity please post where I said Coach Mac needs to go now? I haven't. There has been much evidence that his offense can't work sometimes, try and argue against that you cant. If he can't turn things around this year and the next year then he deserves to be let go. Thats my stance, and I've came to that conclusion throughout this season so far. So i don't understand how you're saying I want him gone now. Maybe you should learn to read, or just don't assume what i feel. But you have fun! I'm done debating. I think my IQ is decreasing by everypost I read of yours.
Same here, I believe your posts are Making my IQ drop. Never in my life have I seen such a big hypocrite and then when called out on it, totally changes their mind. Didn't you mention something about does Auburn need a new head coach???. You keep shying away from the fact that I called you out about McDermott, when at the beginning of the season, we were just a young team.
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