Really stupid taunting call.
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There you go. No excessive anything. If that is a penalty the rule needs to be revisited. It was not a penalty. Scurrilous (on the part of the ref).
This is closer to unsportsmanlike in that he holds the ball out and takes a couple high steps, but no where near what I feel the rule is there for. By the letter of the law, yes you can throw a flag on this one or on X, but situations matter. The rule is there to prevent players from excessive celebrations and instigating a reaction from the other team, not to police all celebratingsimilar penalty against tulsa a few years ago:
believe it cost them the game
iirc, they changed the rules around this a few years back (maybe 2010 or 2011?) -- however I think you could make the argument that in the Iowa State instance, it was a pretty weak call and flag shouldn't have been thrown
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So can someone explain to me why you can’t slightly change your gait mere inches from the goal line but you can do an Irish jig after a sack?
Some people have this weird fascination with giving every little bit of cover to officials they can. Yes he broke his stride a little bit but I don’t know about other people but I break my stride regularly when walking especially when I start thinking about walking.
The problem I have with the people saying he could have done something different is that it would suggest that the call wasn’t clearly and indisputably wrong.
Who did the jig and what team?
Actually I think not much happens if the player is not facing the opponent in that situation although a full dance seems like it would get more attention.
None of it makes sense and the nfl is even worse. Can’t spike a ball after a catch but after an interception the entire defense sprints to the other side of the field to pose for some camera on the wall.
I've been a ref. Not football and not at a college level. So when I see calls made, I can see it from both a fan perspective and a ref perspective.
That said, I'm pretty much completely on the side that this was a horrible call. At the very least this should have been a call where the refs huddle up an discuss whether or not this was to the level of making the call.
Some calls are hardliners, if the players foot is out of bounds play stops. Other calls are subjective and the spirit of why the rule exists has to come into play. Pass interference is the one we all know, because it's so inconsistent (and difficult for the refs to get right). Obviously what X did was not taunting and wasn't excessive in any way. Unsportsmanlike? Lol, no.
Put the Varsity app on your phone and listen to an ISU game call some time. He's the best in the business!
I agree -- the intent of the rule is to prevent excessive celebration / taunting before a player gets into the end zone, so in the Iowa State vs. Oklahoma State case, the flag seems a little ridiculous. I remember worrying when Darius Reynolds held the ball out (I believe vs. UConn in 2012), and I was worried they may throw a flag and bring it back, but we lucked out on that one.
Actually found the highlight there:
The rule should be abolished completely especially since college players get to witness NFL players essentially being allowed to do whatever they want now, but the only time this should be called is if a player does something ridiculous. And even then, the rule change a few years ago to it being a spot foul is ludicrous too.
He didn't alter his stride, if you measure his stride length out remains constant.
Bingo. It’s a simple matter. He did not do anything worthy of drawing that flag. A it wasn’t even close.
Worked out well in the end for us though. I love how we went right back to Hutch.
