Big 12 Expansion (new thread)

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1. Forget Boise State over UCF. UCF won the play in game.

2. One of son’s friends claimed to have heard the abuse Ejim took from BYU. Prefer Boise St to them although I know they add less value.

Given Ejim’s character and track record, I’m thinking there’s one, and only one, word that would provoke that reaction from him.
 

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Personally, they are all yuck. I’d rather grow state schools like CSU and Ohio. But, I’m no business guy. I do know that as awful as city schools feel they are infinitely better than religious private schools for my taste. Directional schools, also meh. But, these are the cards we have.
Lol, Colorado State just got smoked by an FCS team. I don't think they are Big 12 material.
 

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Lol, Colorado State just got smoked by an FCS team. I don't think they are Big 12 material.
went to that game Friday night and would agree. Another factor is there just is no interest in CSU sports. we bought tickets for $19 each in the lower level and there game this week versus Vanderbilt are creeping down to $30-35 range in the same section. I like to go because I’m a football junkyand it’s cheap
 

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Has nothing to do with that for me. Regardless of conference and regardless of teams, I simply like the idea that it ensures the top 2 teams from Regular Season play in the CCG. When the Big Xii started doing this, I thought it was silly, but I have seen the light. The ACC did it last year too with a good effect. I would like to see all conferences go this route to avoid (11-1) vs. (9-3) matchups, etc. It also keeps more teams in the race with more meaningful games down the stretch.

There really is no ideal way to crown a regular season champ. Round robin when there are only 9 games is going to produce a tie pretty frequently although it is a very "TRUE" champion. I guess often that tie can go to a head to head, but the Ohio State Committee made it pretty clear that every team but Ohio State has to play at least 13 games to be considered for the playoff.

It works great in international soccer when they play something like 38 perfectly balanced games with 3 point wins and 1 point ties. Tying over the course of that with games resulting in 0, 1 or 3 is rare and goal differential is a fine tie breaker.

Last year we had a virtual tie with Oklahoma but in no way was the league resume worse. We played them to a 1-1 draw and +1 in point differential head to head. They got to dodge @WVU so they actually were only 7-2 in B12 games to ISU's 8-2. Our OK St loss was slightly better than their KSU loss...they are champs mostly because they won a rematch, which is fine but not the same as winning a title game vs a team they hadn't faced all year or having to beat a good team twice in a row like ISU would have needed to do.

The closeness of that likely played into ISU's ranking and Fiesta Bowl bid thankfully.
 
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Lol, Colorado State just got smoked by an FCS team. I don't think they are Big 12 material.
Their stadium is small but pretty cool unless they’ve built a new one in the last 10 years. Drove past it by accident awhile back.
 

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We got the best 4 available.

I get why people wanted 2 with the 2 being Cincy/BYU.

But considering other teams might leave for Big10/Pac/ACC it will be better to add 4 and you can play at 8, 9 or 10 for a season or two without an issue.
 

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Lol, Colorado State just got smoked by an FCS team. I don't think they are Big 12 material.

Well this is awkward considering a couple of drubbings ISU has taken in the past by FCS teams but was apparently B12 material.
 

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The only way CSU works is if network(s) pay this league a premium to play late night games and CSU can start 9 or 9:30 CST. Maybe the same for BSU. Maybe if there are enough networks/streaming services wanting live content and at times where there isn't much competition. Pete Thamel hinted at that.
 

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Well this is awkward considering a couple of drubbings ISU has taken in the past by FCS teams but was apparently B12 material.

If we were in the Mtn West and the B12 was looking to expand in 2016 we wouldn’t have gotten an invite either.
 

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