Why do people want ISU Baseball back so much?

How many of you, HONESTLY, would regularly attend ISU Baseball games if it existed? Don't lie.


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Iowa, KU, KSU, Nebraska, etc all seem to make it work.

I'm not a "bring back baseball" guy, but I don't buy the weather excuse. Especially when we already have softball.

Almost game 30 before the ladies had a home game. Had 11 total. Not sure how that compares to other midwest schools.
 
Numerous Gopher hockey fans have told me that leaving the WCHA, and all of their intense rivals with great programs (Duluth, North Dakota, etc.) has hurt the program. Same with Mich and Michigan State leaving the CCHA.

Gopher's had great rivalries with Denver and North Dakota in the WCHA. Add in the other three Minnesota teams (MN St, Saint Cloud State, MN-Duluth, and Bemidji St for a short time), they've dropped quite a few 'rivalry' games since joining the Big 10. Although, I believe Minnesota still plays Denver/North Dakota and a some of the other Minnesota schools every now and then, but it's no comparison to the 4 times they would meet per season while in the same conference.
 
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All D1 hockey conference are hockey only. The lone exception being the Big 10.

CCHA
WCHA (Women's only conference now)
AHA
ECAC
NCHC and
Hockey East.

For some reason I thought the Ivy League schools had their own conference. Not the case. ECAC is pretty close.
 
NCHC would be a good fit but not sure they would take a new team as it would make it a 9 team conference. If ASU finally gets a new rink built there is a chance they could be added and the conference could be looking for #10.

Denver
Colorado College
Omaha
NoDak
Duluth
St. Cloud St.
Miami
Western Michigan

That's actually a pretty solid hockey conference, we would get our asses kicked the 1st few yrs. I would think. I didn't realize Miami had a hockey team.
 
IMO the NCAA discourages Northern schools from having baseball by scheduling the season when they do- March to May season is just too unpredictable from a weather standpoint. Sure there are some exceptions- but just look at the history of teams that qualify for the College World Series. Most are south of Mason/Dixon line or on the west coast.

There are just too many build in advantages for warm weather schools that can play/practice outdoors starting in Jan/Feb.

If the NCAA was serious about having competitive Northern schools, they would have the season be Apr-Jul with College WS in late Jul/Aug.

I agree with the idea of ISU using Principal Park to have access to a quality stadium. Having elite stadium in Ames probably only possible if a donor pays to build or maybe if ISU & Ames HS would share.

The confines of the August/September to May/June academic year could be changed. For those who choose, they could instead study year around (or only during the spring semester and summer if they want to take a break in the fall). Being in school through July when the weather is warmer nationwide would make playing in the summer just like being a student athlete during any other part of the year.

Another option would be for some Northern schools to decide to experiment with the later schedule on their own and simply have a regional championship.

One more thing to recognize is that the weather in the South is very hot in July. Southern schools who don't think it is important to play higher caliber Northern schools will choose to continue playing during the current timeframe if they don't want to reduce the number of day games that are played.
 
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But I believe the turnout for baseball would continue to be fairly low. After a quick look at box scores I think the top attendance for softball was 560. I know for a fact baseball got WAY less than that back in the 90s and early 2000s.

The demand is not there.

I shouldn't have said that it would make sense that ISU baseball attendance would also be much larger. Too many variables make it anything, but a wild guess. I was also underwhelmed by attendance for ISU baseball in the 90's when I saw them play OU and Baylor. Also, softball in some places does get a relatively large number of fans and the WCWS recently edged out the MCWS in tv ratings. However, the WCWS has much fewer fans in attendance. The comparison in interest varies depending on what you are comparing.

This said, I looked at the attendances of a few of the Iowa softball and baseball games this year and it seemed like baseball had bigger attendances. However, this may be because playing against other northern schools is more of an advantage for baseball than softball allowing for more wins and fans.

When it comes down to it, yes, competing against southern Big XII schools and the rest of the South with the current start date makes for too much losing and less fans and less revenue. With ISU's smaller budget, bringing back baseball now doesn't make sense. Building football and men's and women's basketball to make more revenue makes the most sense now.
 
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Big 8 conference record, 1990-96
Oklahoma State - .701
Oklahoma - .588
Missouri - .480
Kansas - .466
Nebraska - .462
Iowa State - .451
Kansas State - .352

So ISU did better in a more northern positioned conference? Shocker.

A men's soccer team would have to play in the Missouri Valley or MAC.

Soccer has the same problem as baseball - due to the huge number of leagues and opportunities you're competing with professional opportunities for players and they are probably better off playing on the coasts. Plus, the Big 12 doesn't have Men's soccer. I'd rather see it than any other sport though since we already have a pretty nice soccer field.
 
I haven't read the rest of the thread but someone must have brought up how terrible the weather usually is when home baseball games start being scheduled in this area.
 
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Yes it was entertaining to watch visiting fans from Okla State, Iowa, OU, etc. look around for someone to pay. No, this is Iowa State, where we figure if we charge admission, no one will come,
Kinda like softball now.

They didn't charge anything and nobody came anyway.

I go to a couple Women's soccer game each season. It's nice they are free and honestly probably should be.
 
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Soccer is cheaper and becoming more popular as well.

Still, I've actively discouraged my kids from playing soccer because I am not a fan.

Add in more alternatives to sports like video games, programming, music... and baseball needs a lot of work.

I don't know about that. Basically every sport provides you the option of paying a ridiculous amount of money. Well other than football which remains pretty cheap actually in Ankeny.

My kids have always played Little League only, and the bigger problem for us is actually practice time. Kids join U Trip or other club teams because they practice so much more. The team I'm coaching this year is Single A, essentially 8 and 9 year olds and it's the first year of kid pitch. Ankeny has so many kids playing Little League that you can't get field time to practice. You have two team practices at the facilities and then you start playing games. I don't blame the league, but kids get better in baseball by taking swings and fielding. And the first year of kid pitch you are getting almost no outs in the field and you might get 4 at bats if you're lucky in a game.
 
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Personnaly, I would like ISU to have baseball beacause I love the sport and it would be nice to have a team to cheer for in Ames. That being said, I completely understand the reason we don't and with ISU having one of the smallest athletic budgets in the Big 12, Pollard is right when he says our money is better spent helping our current teams. I am also in agreement with the folks that say it would be tough for us to compete in a south heavy conference as the northernmost school. I think the old Big 8 might have been manageable for baseball today, but the Big 12 might be a bit too much.

IF we somehow find a ton of extra money someday and want to add a sport, it should be hockey. As has been said, you could add women's to offset title IX and I feel like this state is ripe for hockey fandom. My ultimate dream would be to be added to the B1G for hockey only. The rivalries that could be born from playing all of those schools could be great and would be a decent crowd draw over time.

Big question: Does anyone here cheer for the Hawkeyes in baseball? I try to just because they're full of Iowa kids and it doesnt hurt ISU in any way for them to be good in baseball but its a challenge.
 
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Big question: Does anyone here cheer for the Hawkeyes in baseball? I try to just because they're full of Iowa kids and it doesnt hurt ISU in any way for them to be good in baseball but its a challenge.

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Personnaly, I would like ISU to have baseball beacause I love the sport and it would be nice to have a team to cheer for in Ames. That being said, I completely understand the reason we don't and with ISU having one of the smallest athletic budgets in the Big 12, Pollard is right when he says our money is better spent helping our current teams. I am also in agreement with the folks that say it would be tough for us to compete in a south heavy conference as the northernmost school. I think the old Big 8 might have been manageable for baseball today, but the Big 12 might be a bit too much.

IF we somehow find a ton of extra money someday and want to add a sport, it should be hockey. As has been said, you could add women's to offset title IX and I feel like this state is ripe for hockey fandom. My ultimate dream would be to be added to the B1G for hockey only. The rivalries that could be born from playing all of those schools could be great and would be a decent crowd draw over time.

Big question: Does anyone here cheer for the Hawkeyes in baseball? I try to just because they're full of Iowa kids and it doesnt hurt ISU in any way for them to be good in baseball but its a challenge.

I am torn between wanting to see one more (than just one) Big West team make it to the NCAAs and Iowa making it in with a worse record. Northern conference teams don't have a track record of competing better or as good as west coast conference teams so my hope is that they don't get the edge for getting teams in simply because they are in a conference with bigger athletic budgets.
 
I keep reading this thread title as "Why Do People Want ISU Basketball Back So Much?" with a corresponding double take before "baseball" sets in.
 

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