Why do people want ISU Baseball back so much?

[StateThrowdown]

Then give up. And root for them to get beat by a 100. Don't work so hard.

But its not like other sports. Their success in sports we also carry can be a negative for our programs but baseball doesn't have that issue. They do have a lot of Iowa kids and its kind of nice to see them competeing and competing well on the D1 stage (other than Connor McCaffery, obviously. Guy can strike out every plate appearance).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this but I just find it intersting to see where people land on Hawkeye baseball.

 

[isufbcurt]

Big question: Does anyone here cheer for the Hawkeyes in baseball? I try to just because they're full of Iowa kids and it doesnt hurt ISU in any way for them to be good in baseball but its a challenge.

GOD NOOO!!! F NOOO.

Ban this guy

 

[jackrabbit]

If ISU was to add a sport you need to look at the total cost. When I goggled, hockey has 18 scholarships per team, baseball 11.7, swimming and soccer 9.9 per team. Both swimming and soccer would cost less since ISU already has the facilities for the women. If ISU added either men's soccer or swimming, it would have to add a women's sport. Looking at the sports the ncaa sponsors for women that ISU does not have, Beach Volleyball, Water Polo, Bowling and Rifle look to be the lowest cost sports. Other women sports like field hockey and rowing would be higher cost options. So if you add men's soccer and one women's sport, you are adding 20 schlorships plus coaches, trainers etc.. plus travel expenses for competition and recruiting.

 

[BryceC]

Big question: Does anyone here cheer for the Hawkeyes in baseball? I try to just because they're full of Iowa kids and it doesnt hurt ISU in any way for them to be good in baseball but its a challenge.

Nothing could make me care about college baseball. I'm already a fan of the Royals and there are a million other things going on for me in the spring. I'm never going to watch a college baseball game.

 

[CyclonesFan4ever]

Speaking of ISU baseball, although we don't have a varsity team, our club team is currently playing in the NCBA World Series and has won their first two games (including beating Iowa) and advanced to the semi-final. I understand it's just club baseball but I'd cheer for anything ISU sport-related and will be watching the live broadcast online.

Here's more info if you are interested.

World Series | NCBA

clubbaseball.org

 

[qwerty]

Speaking of ISU baseball, although we don't have a varsity team, our club team is currently playing in the NCBA World Series and has won their first two games (including beating Iowa) and advanced to the semi-final. I understand it's just club baseball but I'd cheer for anything ISU sport-related and will be watching the live broadcast online.

Here's more info if you are interested.

I love it. The top two seeds (#1 Nebby and #2 Iowa) both go 0-2 and are out. The two lowest seeds (#8 E Carolina and #7 Iowa State) both go 2-0 and are in the winner's side of semifinals.

 

[CyclonesRock]

Agree.....and it's kind of become a joke/narrative that is what people like to bring up.

I know if JP said "your cyclone club donations need to increase by x% as we are excited to refund and relaunch baseball" the vocal majority would come out.

I never have gotten into baseball...I've been to a few MLB games when visiting cities and enjoyed the atmosphere....but listen to "baseball guys" start talking about "unwritten rules of baseball" and "how the game should be played" and it always seems like they are convincing themselves they are in the know and the rest of us just don't get it

That's how I feel if I wand inti the cave on CF!

 

[CyclonesRock]

I lived in the towers in the mid 80's so baseball and hockey were an easy walk to get to. Hockey was a blast , they sold cheap beer AND the club team was very good, good enough that they actually would have been contenders in the NCAA tournament. Baseball was more of a spur of the moment, it is a nice day, let's grab a case and head to the Cap Timm Field. What I can remember is we were not good, and didn't really have very many home games. I like baseball but it does not make sense at ISU.

For those whose sole reason is we are the only Big XII school to not have baseball, are you equally distressed that we are one of only 4 actual Big XII schools that have wrestling?

 

[BCClone]

I lived in the towers in the mid 80's so baseball and hockey were an easy walk to get to. Hockey was a blast , they sold cheap beer AND the club team was very good, good enough that they actually would have been contenders in the NCAA tournament. Baseball was more of a spur of the moment, it is a nice day, let's grab a case and head to the Cap Timm Field. What I can remember is we were not good, and didn't really have very many home games. I like baseball but it does not make sense at ISU.

For those whose sole reason is we are the only Big XII school to not have baseball, are you equally distressed that we are one of only 4 actual Big XII schools that have wrestling?

Gymnastics is down to like 3 big 12 schools I thought.

 

[benjay]

yeah let's bring baseball back so it can be promptly ignored like it was last time

 

[JRE1975]

My only concern about not having baseball is if a super conference type structure develops with the top 48 athletic programs, Iowa State could be looked on differently without baseball. College baseball is a big deal in most of the top programs.

 

[Tornado man]

My only concern about not having baseball is if a super conference type structure develops with the top 48 athletic programs, Iowa State could be looked on differently without baseball. College baseball is a big deal in most of the top programs.

So Wisconsin should be nervous too?

 

[HawaiiClone]

My only concern about not having baseball is if a super conference type structure develops with the top 48 athletic programs, Iowa State could be looked on differently without baseball. College baseball is a big deal in most of the top programs.

When it's looked at as far as whether a school will be invited to a new conference, yes, having sports like baseball or hockey versus say golf or tennis is more desirable since they are higher profile sports. It means more to conferences to not have schools missing in higher profile sports. This said, ISU has a lot of other things going for it like great fan support, great facilities and successful teams across its athletic department which will make up for not having certain higher profile sports.

 

[theshadow]

When it's looked at as far as whether a school will be invited to a new conference, yes, having sports like baseball or hockey versus say golf or tennis is more desirable since they are higher profile sports.

Hockey? There are fewer D1 hockey teams than D1 wrestling teams. And most of the D1 hockey teams are at FCS level or lower.

 

[2speedy1]

There are pros and cons on both sides.

Some say we sucked and couldnt compete so why have it, but couldnt the same be said for Football for most of our history too, and look where we are now.

Some say its is about us being in the North but there are other Northern and more northern teams that have Baseball.

In that regard I believe there are only 2 other schools D1 that don't have baseball.

People say its about Title IX, but actually we are backwards right now in that regard. We actually could add a mens team sport like baseball or Hockey and still be ok, meaning we are actually behind in Mens sports scholarships.

We have less sports than our peer schools.

Some say its about money but in honesty most of the sports are money losers. If we got rid of all sports that lose money or are not historically above .500 average we would not have very many if any sports at ISU.

Quite frankly we have wrestling, and everyone loves that here but, honestly most schools have dropped that sport, at least many more than have dropped baseball. And it is also a money loser too.

While I agree the season is a problem, and I think the NCAA should look at it, I think we are at a point where the season should start later and go into the summer. Many say we cant have summer sports, in College, but why not? The athletes are there all summer in many sports, Football is there for camp and practice outside of regular fall semester. We have summer sports in High school, I feel that could push the season back a month or two then finish mid summer rather than now. When you consider it, the colleges are out of school now and they are still playing so what is the difference if they push it a month or so later so the northern schools have better weather.

Do I think we will bring baseball back? NO, not without something major happening. I also doubt we bring Hockey up at this point either. Unless something happens with the season. A major donation, some NCAA or conference requirement dealing with certain sports or number of sports. Or some other major change that we are really unlikely to see.

But I can say some of the reasons people give, have to be held against any or all other sports at ISU and then asked so why is baseball different. In honesty the only one that really holds up is the season and the weather, but...then you look at all the other schools that do it. Are they competitive with the southern schools all the time? maybe not. But that's also like saying all the conferences might as well not play football anymore and just let the SEC play football.

 

[Rabbuk]

I want the option to ignore it and never attend games.

 

[BillyClone]

ISU should not bring baseball back until the NCAA shifts the regular season to Apr-Jun from the current Mar-May. As it is now, schools in warmer climates have the advantage.

As well, if baseball ever came back, it should have top tier facilities and a marketing plan to attract season ticket holders.

I’m sure it could be a successful return but it would take a lot of money, supporters, and good luck to happen.

That said, I am not holding my breath for a return of ISU baseball anytime soon.

 

[HawaiiClone]

Hockey? There are fewer D1 hockey teams than D1 wrestling teams. And most of the D1 hockey teams are at FCS level or lower.

Yeah, maybe hockey isn't THAT much higher profile. I was thinking more in terms of Frozen Four coverage.

 

[HawaiiClone]

Some say its is about us being in the North but there are other Northern and more northern teams that have Baseball.

In that regard I believe there are only 2 other schools D1 that don't have baseball.

True, lots of other northern schools have baseball, but more than 2 other D1 schools (e.g. Syracuse, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho) don't.

While I agree the season is a problem, and I think the NCAA should look at it, I think we are at a point where the season should start later and go into the summer. Many say we cant have summer sports, in College, but why not? The athletes are there all summer in many sports, Football is there for camp and practice outside of regular fall semester. We have summer sports in High school, I feel that could push the season back a month or two then finish mid summer rather than now. When you consider it, the colleges are out of school now and they are still playing so what is the difference if they push it a month or so later so the northern schools have better weather.

Need to balance early season Northern cold weather with late season Southern hot weather although hot weather can be mitigated with night games.

And yes, athletes are already on campus in the summer plus summer school is available. Also, maybe they could take time off in the fall if year round is too much.

 

[2speedy1]

True, lots of other northern schools have baseball, but more than 2 other D1 schools (e.g. Syracuse, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho) don't.



Need to balance early season Northern cold weather with late season Southern hot weather although hot weather can be mitigated with night games.

And yes, athletes are already on campus in the summer plus summer school is available. Also, maybe they could take time off in the fall if year round is too much.

Hmm, Maybe I was thinking in P5? Not sure, either way there isn't many especially among major Colleges.

Yeah I think if you push it back a month or so, you would be ok before it gets too hot in the south, with the playoffs being later in the summer and those like you said could be scheduled in evenings and are usually set in regions as well.

Also with so many student athletes for many sports I can see the possibility of other sports seasons being adjusted as well including Softball. Truthfully some of these sports are summer sports and we are trying to fit them into seasons that don't work. Times have changed on how people get around and how people stay and live on campus etc. when some of these seasons and rules were developed, its time to adjust things.