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Campbell turned down $68.5m NFL contract this off season

I don't even have words for this.

Either Campbell is waiting for something perfect... a true blue-blood in college football, most likely Ohio State or Notre Dame, or an NFL franchise that hasn't been ****** for decades with good leadership, management, and a franchise quarterback ready to go... or he's going to be ours forever.
 
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Does a team actually throw out that offer of that amount to a coach that doesn't even bite? Not trying to sound like my head is in the sand, but do we really know an offer/$ was offered? Or is this what the Lions new coach got?
 
Pope said:
With all due respect, you don't understand Matt Campbell. He said time and time again that he doesn't view his job as a spring board to something higher. He loves to impact the lives of young men - to get them to reach their fullest potential - more than he loves to celebrate wins. He doesn't define success by the number of wins or the size of the paycheck. He defines it by helping young men become the highest version of themselves. He believes the opponent is always yourself, not the team across the field.

Matt Campbell is an incredibly rare kind of person. I honestly believe his intention is to build a Mt. Union type program right here in Ames, Iowa.
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With all due respect, if this is all true, why did he leave his last job? Was he not working with young men? Did he already have them at the highest version of themselves? My point is, he will leave eventually. Hopefully it's not for a long time but it will happen.
 
Pope said:
With all due respect, you don't understand Matt Campbell. He said time and time again that he doesn't view his job as a spring board to something higher. He loves to impact the lives of young men - to get them to reach their fullest potential - more than he loves to celebrate wins. He doesn't define success by the number of wins or the size of the paycheck. He defines it by helping young men become the highest version of themselves. He believes the opponent is always yourself, not the team across the field.

Matt Campbell is an incredibly rare kind of person. I honestly believe his intention is to build a Mt. Union type program right here in Ames, Iowa.
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Oh absolutely. I wasn't saying I even think he WOULD go. Just that the temptation to work for a good NFL organization would be much higher than the Lions.
I think Campbell has the soul of true college football coach. Building character with young men and building a program that means something. Everything he's said about loving the process screams college state of mind.
Not just chasing checks in the NFL where it doesn't matter how good a coach you are, if the front office doesn't do their job, you get fired.

I also agree with the Mount Union goals. He's talked about his coach at Mount Union and how he built a dynasty. And that's a place where the paycheck could ALWAYS be topped by a higher level program.

Matt is a very unique person and head coach and I am beyond thrilled that he chose ISU.
 
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jdoggivjc said:
Having lived in the Detroit metro (Macomb County) for a decade now, here's the problem with people's assumptions of Detroit - they assume that "Detroit" is all there is here. And as nice as downtown Detroit actually is (and I have absolutely no problems taking my family down there with any kind of fear that we're risking out lives), no coach is living there - they're likely living in Oakland County, which is one of the wealthiest counties in America, and that's including Pontiac, which for all intents and purposes is Detroit Junior. And if anyone just had to have the "Ames Experience", Ann Arbor is less than an hour away.
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That's exactly what I thought. Thanks for clarifying it.
 
1100011CS said:
With all due respect, if this is all true, why did he leave his last job? Was he not working with young men? Did he already have them at the highest version of themselves? My point is, he will leave eventually. Hopefully it's not for a long time but it will happen.
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1) Because Toledo will never have an opportunity to play in a BCS playoff. And Yes ISU is a longshot too. But they do have a more viable path with an opportunity to compete in a conference that at least is 1 of 5 considered for the playoffs.
2) He was and the move to ISU still allowed him to work with young men at higher level with lots of untapped resources and to achieve things underheard of when talking ISU football
3) I am not sure what that question means. So I will simply say, when having to work with millionaires, the ability to influence are more challenging. Harder to change the culture of an NFL team vs a collegiate one. You depend more on GM's and guys who write checks than you do your own staff.

Best I got. And you are right, he could reach a point in his life where his approach to things will change.
 
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cyhiphopp said:
Randy will find a way to **** on it and ask some stupid ass question that makes him feel witty and smart.
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I am probably a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to Randy. I roll my eyes as often as the next guy when journalists all ask the same old tired questions but I think Randy is an idiot when he asks something of an original question; a stupid and asinine question, but original nonetheless.
 
Mr Janny said:
Depends on what a person's tastes are, I suppose. I've run into Coach and his family eating at Old Chicago, here in Ames. So, you know he has expensive tastes. No cheap ass Dominos for the Campbells. No sir.
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Good thing Ames doesn't have a Bennigan's!
 
VeloClone said:
I am probably a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to Randy. I roll my eyes as often as the next guy when journalists all ask the same old tired questions but I think Randy is an idiot when he asks something of an original question; a stupid and asinine question, but original nonetheless.
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Thank dementia.
 
Sigmapolis said:
I don't even have words for this.

Either Campbell is waiting for something perfect... a true blue-blood in college football, most likely Ohio State or Notre Dame, or an NFL franchise that hasn't been ****** for decades with good leadership, management, and a franchise quarterback ready to go... or he's going to be ours forever.
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I honestly don't think he wants a blue blood job. His blue collar culture rarely works in a program like that.
 
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fsanford said:
1) Because Toledo will never have an opportunity to play in a BCS playoff. And Yes ISU is a longshot too. But they do have a more viable path with an opportunity to compete in a conference that at least is 1 of 5 considered for the playoffs.
2) He was and the move to ISU still allowed him to work with young men at higher level with lots of untapped resources and to achieve things underheard of when talking ISU football
3) I am not sure what that question means. So I will simply say, when having to work with millionaires, the ability to influence are more challenging. Harder to change the culture of an NFL team vs a collegiate one. You depend more on GM's and guys who write checks than you do your own staff.

Best I got. And you are right, he could reach a point in his life where his approach to things will change.
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I agree with all of that but that's not what I was replying to.
 
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fsanford said:
1) Because Toledo will never have an opportunity to play in a BCS playoff. And Yes ISU is a longshot too. But they do have a more viable path with an opportunity to compete in a conference that at least is 1 of 5 considered for the playoffs.
2) He was and the move to ISU still allowed him to work with young men at higher level with lots of untapped resources and to achieve things underheard of when talking ISU football
3) I am not sure what that question means. So I will simply say, when having to work with millionaires, the ability to influence are more challenging. Harder to change the culture of an NFL team vs a collegiate one. You depend more on GM's and guys who write checks than you do your own staff.

Best I got. And you are right, he could reach a point in his life where his approach to things will change.
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While ISU doesn't pay the BIGGEST money, it's better than Toledo as well. From the topic of this thread we know CMC is not all about the money, but there's a big difference between around 1M at Toledo and 4M at ISU. It would be like the Lions offering him 16M instead of 8. Harder to pass up.

The financial support of the program seems to be a HUGE thing for CMC as well. ISU has raised salaries for his assistants consistently. That means his guys stick around longer and he can do his best work as a coach. At Toledo with continued success he would lose assistants regularly. That's just how things go at that level. Everyone needs to build there resume so they can get a better job.

Matt noted the fan support at ISU when he took the job. I know there are great fans at Toledo, but these were the numbers for 2018:
"The University of Toledo finished No. 1 in the Mid-American Conference in home football attendance for the second consecutive season with an average of 21,352 fans per game in 2018, well above the MAC average of 15,532. The Rockets totaled 149,462"

CMC saw sellout crowds (or nearly) for Paul Rhoads to play a noncon game against Toledo. That has to have made think about what he could do with that kind of support. And he proved it 100%

SO many things go into decisions like these.
 
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