*** Official Iowa State Season Thread ***

Cat Stevens

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Oh, and I’ll make fun of anyone who tries to claim Prohm was put in a tough spot because he wasn’t handed a deep enough bench. This is college basketball, most new coaches are handed rosters with huge gaping holes.

see you’re continuing to make stuff up here. No one is saying he didn’t have 6 good players at a time since Naz redshirted as soon as Deonte was eligible.

but after that, hallice cook was your 7th guy. He barely played at Nevada when he left here.
 

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I only see one reason for letting Prohm go during the regular season and that is his relationship with his players is toxic. Don't see that happening. JP will allow Prohm to finish the season with his team. IMO it is in the best interest of the players and ISU.

There could be an argument for letting Prohm go during the open week before the Big 12 Tournament, but that even seems unnecessary. Much of what JP needs to do in a coaching search can initially happen behind the scenes. Going public early would make sense if the new coach is an assistant or a head coach who's team isn't going to be in the NCAA Tournament.
 

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I think he's referring to Jake Anderson, who was somewhere between there at 6-1 but rebounded like a beast.

I had a hunch that was the reference. I was going technically by listed position on official roster (G) and height (sez 6-2, but those are almost always inflated a couple of inches) ... he didn't really play like a guard or fill a 2/3 in any true fashion. "Small 4" sort of like a Ron Harris type.
 

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see you’re continuing to make stuff up here. No one is saying he didn’t have 6 good players at a time since Naz redshirted as soon as Deonte was eligible.

but after that, hallice cook was your 7th guy. He barely played at Nevada when he left here.
Hallice Cooke was much better as a freshman at oregon than any freshman on our team. Hell he dropped 20 points twice that year for oregon. Only Bolton has done that thia year more than twice. Our freshman have maxxed out at half that much. The double hip surgery is what did Hallice in. But you are right, our 9th man that year jordan ashton wasnt good and wasnt big 12 material. I cant belive hoiberg was so mean and didn't leave prohm 10 big 12 caliber players... Which would have been the frist time ever we had that many big 12 caliber players on 1 roster.
 
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see you’re continuing to make stuff up here. No one is saying he didn’t have 6 good players at a time since Naz redshirted as soon as Deonte was eligible.

but after that, hallice cook was your 7th guy. He barely played at Nevada when he left here.
Hallice played 20 mpg at Nevada and shot near 50% from 3. It's not like he's Jakolby long who rides the bench at Southern Illinois..
 
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Hallice Cooke was much better as a freshman at oregon than any freshman on our team. Hell he dropped 20 points twice that year for oregon. Only Bolton has done that thia year more than twice. Our freshman have maxxed out at half that much. The double hip surgery is what did Hallice in. But you are right, our 9th man that year jordan ashton wasnt good and wasnt big 12 material. I cant belive hoiberg was so mean and didn't leave prohm 10 big 12 caliber players... Which would have been the frist time ever we had that many big 12 caliber players on 1 roster.

Didn't he have an illness or heart trouble when he got to Nevada, too?
I remember a whole battery of real health problems limiting his playing time.
 

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Hallice Cooke was much better as a freshman at oregon than any freshman on our team. Hell he dropped 20 points twice that year for oregon. Only Bolton has done that thia year more than twice. Our freshman have maxxed out at half that much. The double hip surgery is what did Hallice in. But you are right, our 9th man that year jordan ashton wasnt good and wasnt big 12 material. I cant belive hoiberg was so mean and didn't leave prohm 10 big 12 caliber players... Which would have been the frist time ever we had that many big 12 caliber players on 1 roster.

At least get the school right if you’re going to revise stuff man.
 

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At least get the school right if you’re going to revise stuff man.
Sorry i missed the st after oregon.... What else did i revise, or is being a nit picky your only real arguement? Hallice had bettter performances as a freshman than every damn freshman on our current roster. He was 8th in minutes per game Prohm. Find me one 8th man who was big 12 starter material while being the 8th man in the last 30 years of ISU hoops and then you can ***** about hoiberg setting up your precious prohm for failure. It must really burn your ass that he sucks even worse than everyone said he did after the FAMU game.
 

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Sorry i missed the st after oregon.... What else did i revise, or is being a nit picky your only real arguement? Hallice had bettter performances as a freshman than every damn freshman on our current roster. He was 8th in minutes per game Prohm. Find me one 8th man who was big 12 starter material while being the 8th man in the last 30 years of ISU hoops and then you can ***** about hoiberg setting up your precious prohm for failure. It must really burn your ass that he sucks even worse than everyone said he did after the FAMU game.

My precious prohm? Since you’ve done this research, who were 6th and 7th in minutes per game. I’m actually curious.
 
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Watching a Minnesota game today. Man alive we play really really small ball. It is really difficult to have Bolton and another small guard on the court at the same time. I think it would be doable if they were all ball handlers, but we have exactly like 0 of those.

The crazy part is, we have three guards 6-0 and under... and none are true PGs. That has to be some kind of modern record for this level.
 

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if you’re not even going to do the math right, you’re kind of proving my point. There are enough real things to criticize, making things up makes you look bad.

Yeah, somebody is looking bad here. Call me crazy, but I think it’s the guy who has chosen “Hoiberg didn’t leave Prohm enough talent at the end of the bench” as his hill to die on....
 

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Yeah, somebody is looking bad here. Call me crazy, but I think it’s the guy who has chosen “Hoiberg didn’t leave Prohm enough talent at the end of the bench” as his hill to die on....

If thats what I actually said, you’d have a point. But since I didn’t say that, then you’re wrong.
 
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Outside of 14-15 it's not like depth was much of a thing at ISU to start with or it is anywhere outside some years the blue bloods can play an A and B team.

Yep. Almost all our best teams had 6 or 7 real players. Hell our best team ever typically played a 6 man rotation most of the year after Rancik was hurt, including a 6-4 power forward.
 

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Yep. Almost all our best teams had 6 or 7 real players. Hell our best team ever typically played a 6 man rotation most of the year after Rancik was hurt, including a 6-4 power forward.

except that they played 7 as well. Rancik came back the night Shirley broke his foot, and Brandon Hawkins was the 3rd guard.
 

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Sorry i missed the st after oregon.... What else did i revise, or is being a nit picky your only real arguement? Hallice had bettter performances as a freshman than every damn freshman on our current roster. He was 8th in minutes per game Prohm. Find me one 8th man who was big 12 starter material while being the 8th man in the last 30 years of ISU hoops and then you can ***** about hoiberg setting up your precious prohm for failure. It must really burn your ass that he sucks even worse than everyone said he did after the FAMU game.

Bump. Who was 6 and 7 in minutes played?
 

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except that they played 7 as well. Rancik came back the night Shirley broke his foot, and Brandon Hawkins was the 3rd guard.

I actually forgot about Hawkins. Steve Earkles cousin. I think he transferred after that season which was unexpected.
 

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“He only left him 7 real big 12 starters!” In response to my sarcasm about the whining over the the 9th and 10th spots. Oh, and you forgot NWB, so please quit with the lame whining about counting depth correctly.

you can’t even quote honestly.

he left him 6 players, which stayed 6 players because Naz redshirted.

and Babb was a transfer that was in his redshirt year.

again, man, there’s enough to legitimately criticize, you don’t need to make **** up.
 
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you can’t even quote honestly.

he left him 6 players, which stayed 6 players because Naz redshirted.

and Babb was a transfer that was in his redshirt year.

again, man, there’s enough to legitimately criticize, you don’t need to make **** up.
Only one here making **** up is you, bud. Keep putting words into people's mouths.