*** Official Iowa State Season Thread ***

[cyclones500]

I can't even get worked up about the specifics anymore. It's rec-league basketball strategy at this point.

 

[rochclone]

Didn’t think I’d say this but we win if conditt doesn’t get injured. He was good today

Completely agree.

 

[Hoxsuck]

Does Steve realize you don’t want to tank in college basketball? There isn’t a draft lottery.

 

[Clonefan32]

I really feel bad for the players. They have to be completely embarrassed at this point.

This is going to be must watch TV the rest of the year to see if they can actually win a game.

I feel for them too. They obviously are trying to win and I do hate commentary about them being “soft” or not wanting to win.

The fact of the matter is they have a coach that couldn’t construct a competitive roster and can’t coach to fix the deficiencies we have. That’s not their fault.

 

[Urbandale2013]

To those saying this is a mid-major roster - I think this could be a .500 team with coaching that taught rebounding, defense and toughness. It’s true that a roster takes on the personality of its leader. Huggins and Beard are tough, intense mothertruckers. Self and Drew are intense and demanding. Steve Prohm licks his lips and has his thumb up his arse and lets the same sh!t happen over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. One wonders how one reaches the highest levels of coaching without such an essential trait.

Yeah this team isn't going to be competing for titles, but with proper coaching they could be decent. I think they could have potentially made a push for the tournament as like a 10/11 seed if they had good coaching. The problem is the players aren't growing and are really regressing because of the lack of coaching.

 

[cyatheart]

I knew Tcu was bad, but holy hell they are much worse than I thought

should be another barn burner in Ames in two weeks, I really think we can beat Tcu

 

[cygrads]

Bag on Prohm all you want but until the players decide to rebound this loss is on them - the rebounding was the difference in the game.

 

[Darius Bieber]

I can't even get worked up about the specifics anymore. It's rec-league basketball strategy at this point.

I feel like two guys on a team in the rec league discussing executing a pick and roll is better offense than whatever the Cyclones are doing.

 

[simply1]

Bag on Prohm all you want but until the players decide to rebound this loss is on them - the rebounding was the difference in the game.

When that’s problem every game..

 

[stormchaser2014]

I miss blaming the refs.

 

[awd4cy]

I knew Tcu was bad, but holy hell they are much worse than I thought

should be another barn burner in Ames in two weeks, I really think we can beat Tcu

Lol, no we can’t. We will just play them close and lose the game in the last 5 min

 

[MJN]

This team has no killers. Every close game opportunity they’ve folded and made a boneheaded play. The offense the last 10 min was horrendous. Different game same result. Oh and our walk on got a offensive rebound in 45 secs and starting center for zero.

 

[tim_redd]

I miss blaming the refs.

I miss winning this game by 10 and getting mad that we're playing down to the level of the opponent.

 

[Inthesystem]

For some reason I feel like I did after the 2015 Kansas State football debacle. Really the end of the line.

 

[Hoxsuck]

Bag on Prohm all you want but until the players decide to rebound this loss is on them - the rebounding was the difference in the game.

And you can also at least try to do something about that from a coaching standpoint. TCU can’t shoot and yet we still chased them off the line. Dare them to shoot it and pack the lane for rebounds. The 20 second chance points are more dangerous the lightly contested 3’s from a poor shooting team.

But that would take putting together a scouting report.

 

[Go2Guy]

I'm devastated; this is the lowest. And I was there for the 3-win season in the 70's. Despair; this sucks.
I do feel we can win a game, maybe two. although we've lost 12 in a row, it's really hard to lose every conf game.18 in a row...right ? i dunno. this sucks.

 

[Urbandale2013]

Bag on Prohm all you want but until the players decide to rebound this loss is on them - the rebounding was the difference in the game.

If it was one player or one bad game then maybe that argument would be valid. It is a coaching issue because it has persisted for years now.

 

[cyatheart]

Yeah this team isn't going to be competing for titles, but with proper coaching they could be decent. I think they could have potentially made a push for the tournament as like a 10/11 seed if they had good coaching. The problem is the players aren't growing and are really regressing because of the lack of coaching.

I think if you played slow, committed to defense, throw it to solo on the block a lot, Put Bolton at the two, and you have everyone you could win 5 or 6 games in conference...Bolton alone would get you a couple at home

you can tell though, they are so buried mentally they just can’t get out

 

[Clone_12]

Rebounding like total and complete dog**** wasn’t going to be good enough to lose this one...we had to dig deep and completely shut down any good ball movement and shot selection on the offensive end the final 10 minutes.

Hopefully next year’s coach brings SOME type of toughness to the program (physically and mentally)...that was absolutely pathetic

 

[Iastfan112]

Bag on Prohm all you want but until the players decide to rebound this loss is on them - the rebounding was the difference in the game.

One game bad rebounding can be a player issue. When it's nearly every game you have a coaching issue, whether that be technique or motivation. Both of those fall under the coaches jurisdiction.