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To be fair everyone knew it would be Ryan Day getting that job in 2018. Campbell wasn’t getting it offered to him.
This is correct. If tOSU wanted Campbell he'd be theirs. He did turn down Michigan State though, or at the very least they were interested
 
That seems like too many states.

For me Ohio and Indiana don’t belong with those states. Ohio became a state in 1803. Much closer to the first state (Delaware), than Nebraska or the Dakotas which were like 60 some years later. Also, it’s hard for me to jive states in two different time zones being in the same region. Why not just have more regional distinctions?
 
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For me Ohio and Indiana don’t belong with those states. Ohio became a state in 1803. Much closer to the first state (Delaware), than Nebraska or the Dakotas which were like 60 some years later. Also, it’s hard for me to jive states in two different time zones being in the same region. Why not just have more regional distinctions?
Those were the same two I would take out. And Michigan seems too “industrial “ to be considered midwestern.
 
Those were the same two I would take out. And Michigan seems too “industrial “ to be considered midwestern.

Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio should be the Great Lakes region. Although southern Indiana, Southern Illinois, and southern Ohio could also be the Kentucky region.
 
Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio should be the Great Lakes region. Although southern Indiana, Southern Illinois, and southern Ohio could also be the Kentucky region.
TBH, I’m not really sure what the 5 regions referenced earlier in the thread actually are.
 
That means zilch in the coaching world. Heck, Schembechler was a Woody Hayes protege (Miami of Ohio grad) Ohio guy before he went to Michigan.

Edit: @20eyes Looks like we had the same thought at the same time!

Coaches might have a predilection of a place they want to go, but they won't turn down a big job because it is a rival of that school. Fickell might like the opportunity to be the guy to get Michigan over the hump vs. Ohio State - especially since OSU chose to not retain him after being at the helm in 2011. As for the topic at hand, not worried either way.

fyi: If CMC wants to stay at Iowa State forever (my hope), GREAT! If not, I wish him well, and I hope ISU makes another wise choice to replace him.
Fickell will take another job before he goes to Michigan. Will see how Herman finishes the season but Fickell to UT is more likely.
 
For me Ohio and Indiana don’t belong with those states. Ohio became a state in 1803. Much closer to the first state (Delaware), than Nebraska or the Dakotas which were like 60 some years later. Also, it’s hard for me to jive states in two different time zones being in the same region. Why not just have more regional distinctions?
How about get rid of the time zones. Asking for a friend.
 
I now live in New England. That locals here consider Indiana to Colorado fly over country. The weather people call anything west of the Mississippi the plains. I don't know where the Midwest is anymore.

We should have a conference in which all schools are in the same time zone.

Just thought I'd throw that in.
 
Regarding the definition of the Midwest. In my opinion, The U.S. has 4 major regions with the Midwest being one of them. Iowa, Michigan, Ohio are all part of this larger region.

However, all regions in the U.S. can be divided into at least smaller sub-regions. In the case of the Midwest, there is the "Great Lakes" region of MI, OH, IN, IL, and WI. And then there is the "Great Plains" region of MN, IA, MO, KS, NE, SD, and ND. Wisconsin is the tricky one in this case.

I actually really like the Census Bureau's categorizations of regions and division, but I also spend almost all of my time thinking about these things for my job. Haha.

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Regarding the definition of the Midwest. In my opinion, The U.S. has 4 major regions with the Midwest being one of them. Iowa, Michigan, Ohio are all part of this larger region.

However, all regions in the U.S. can be divided into at least smaller sub-regions. In the case of the Midwest, there is the "Great Lakes" region of MI, OH, IN, IL, and WI. And then there is the "Great Plains" region of MN, IA, MO, KS, NE, SD, and ND. Wisconsin is the tricky one in this case.

I actually really like the Census Bureau's categorizations of regions and division, but I also spend almost all of my time thinking about these things for my job. Haha.

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Not bad, but I think I'd consider Wisconsin and Illinois part of the core Midwest. I just struggle to associate MI, IN or OH with the midwest.
 
Regarding the definition of the Midwest. In my opinion, The U.S. has 4 major regions with the Midwest being one of them. Iowa, Michigan, Ohio are all part of this larger region.

However, all regions in the U.S. can be divided into at least smaller sub-regions. In the case of the Midwest, there is the "Great Lakes" region of MI, OH, IN, IL, and WI. And then there is the "Great Plains" region of MN, IA, MO, KS, NE, SD, and ND. Wisconsin is the tricky one in this case.

I actually really like the Census Bureau's categorizations of regions and division, but I also spend almost all of my time thinking about these things for my job. Haha.

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This matches what I was taught in elementary school, too - "Great Plains" and "Great Lakes" regions.

There was also a really odd region consisting of Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and W. Virginia, I think it was called "The Highlands States." Felt more like the textbook didn't know where to put those 4 states when learning States & Capitals, so they invented a region. :)