I'd love to see that 61 to 80 bracket broken down further. Maybe cause I just entered that bracket or, more curiously, that's the largest jump.
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There is absolutely zero chance media or powers that be will say we’ve hit herd immunity...why?
VACCINE.
Sorry But Mr gates has invested way too much $$ to not use it.
After 6 months we have 5 mil cases...after 6 months of H1N1 in 2009 we had like 60 mil infected..I’m not comparing other than to say I think as a whole the country has done ok at mitigation.. Considering the R0 for virus is supposedly 3-4 x more infectious than flu.
i actually think it’s good that all these kids are returning to college and testing positive bc 95% are asymptomatic and we should be able to at least find out who has got it Etc..
VACCINE.
Sorry But Mr gates has invested way too much $$ to not use it.
After 6 months we have 5 mil cases...after 6 months of H1N1 in 2009 we had like 60 mil infected..I’m not comparing other than to say I think as a whole the country has done ok at mitigation.. Considering the R0 for virus is supposedly 3-4 x more infectious than flu.
i actually think it’s good that all these kids are returning to college and testing positive bc 95% are asymptomatic and we should be able to at least find out who has got it Etc..
Yeah, unsure on the breakout in that age range. Though the average death age of Covid nationwide is 78 years, which is around the life expectancy of a human, my guess it’s on the latter of that age range. I think those who just enter that age range, who are healthy, no co-morbilities, are still likely to kick Covid if they get it.
An estimated 60 million infected over a 12 month period with zero mitigation.
2009 H1N1 Pandemic
A summary of key events of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the CDC's response activities between April 2009 and April 2010.
An estimated 60 million infected over a 12 month period with zero mitigation.
2009 H1N1 Pandemic
A summary of key events of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the CDC's response activities between April 2009 and April 2010.www.cdc.gov
I'd be surprised if U.S. numbers aren't approaching hat range right now for Covid which is what the T-Cell tests may reveal.
There's no way we only have just under 6 million cases at this point anyway.
That's still not herd immunity though although some pockets may actually have some.
The difference obviously is the amount of deaths and Swine Flu I think was spread via symptomatic people. Also having a vaccine by October helped too.
An estimated 60 million infected over a 12 month period with zero mitigation.
2009 H1N1 Pandemic
A summary of key events of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the CDC's response activities between April 2009 and April 2010.
yep u are right over 12 months...yep there was zero mitigation...agree..
so if we had not had any mitigation prob have 20-30 mil infected but also have reached Herd immunity as well And this entire pandemic would be over mostly..
The latest estimates I've seen are somewhere between 10 - 20% of the population has had the virus at this point. Large variations from region to region.
H1N1 '09 wasn't ended due to herd immunity.
And it had a much smaller death rate.
The weird thing was it affected younger people more so because the older folks likely had some immunity due to an H1N1 that went through in the 60s.
Some of this cross-reaction stuff that's come out is potentially positive but wouldn't elderly folks have had a cold at some point or perhaps being in care facilities didn't allow for a cold to come through.
I believe the WHO is still stating 70% need to have had the virus to reach herd immunity without a vaccine.
Doctors are getting better at treating the serious infections which is really helping the mortality rate.
www.vox.com
4 changes doctors have made to better treat Covid-19 patients
Improved treatment options could help save lives in the Covid-19 pandemic.
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And remember, the CDC’s own number is 10x the reported cases. Also, we weren’t even testing kids for months and even now that is smaller number/percentage. So the total number could be even higher, thus bringing the CFR even lower.
They are probably correct about that. What they are wrong about, or remain silent on is the increasing evidence that around 50% +/- of the population appear to already be immune, probably due to exposure from other, similar corona viruses.
Imo there needs to be more confirmation of that but it's definitely good.
I have family that is high risk that I know had some viral stuff going on in the winter and it would be excellent if there were confirmation that those provided enough protection to not let it get severe.
Hopefully that's true. Considering some of the poor messaging coming from the WHO previously, I doubt they change their stance until this is actually proven.
Here is another lengthy twitter thread discussing this. I believe the person is mainly talking about the UK and Europe here.
Iowa may not be in as good of shape as was once thought...
apnews.com
'Horrifying' data glitch skews key Iowa coronavirus metrics
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — A state agency says it is working to fix a data error on Iowa’s coronavirus website that lowers the number of new confirmed cases and therefore downplays the severity of the current outbreak, just as schools are deciding whether to reopen.
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Case numbers don't matter They have always been, and will always be wildly inaccurate. Hospitalizations and death counts matter.Iowa may not be in as good of shape as was once thought...
'Horrifying' data glitch skews key Iowa coronavirus metrics
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — A state agency says it is working to fix a data error on Iowa’s coronavirus website that lowers the number of new confirmed cases and therefore downplays the severity of the current outbreak, just as schools are deciding whether to reopen.
Well, let’s see what the glitch is. I still think Iowa is about the same as it’s has been. Though today there is a up tick in hospitalizations (which I think is an important measure), not drastic and from what I could read was only in 5 counties. So there is a context and not to be thought of it’s happening all over statewide.Iowa may not be in as good of shape as was once thought...
'Horrifying' data glitch skews key Iowa coronavirus metrics
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — A state agency says it is working to fix a data error on Iowa’s coronavirus website that lowers the number of new confirmed cases and therefore downplays the severity of the current outbreak, just as schools are deciding whether to reopen.
The issue with this glitch is its direct impact on the metric being used to determine if schools should transition to online.
It'll change the shape of the curve to skew worse in the later dates, but it won't change the area under the curve. So as new cases are reported, the old data would've increased. But it must not have been significant if no one was noticing that June was looking worse now than when it was originally reported.
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