Fire all the coaches v 4.0

[Cat Stevens]

Nebraska, a historical nobody of college basketball is paying Fred more in his first year than we are paying for year 5 of prohm.

The actual story there is that was what was available to him professionally. His agent floated his name for UCLA, but he wasn’t considered.

truthfully, as much as he hates recruiting, as much as he hated the babysitting of college players, it’s surprising he wanted back in so bad.

christ, Tom floyd got another nba job after his career cratered with the bulls.

 

[WastedTalent]

What the hell does it matter how good Hoiberg was? It's completely irrelevant to the current program issues. Pollard didn't choose Prohm over Hoiberg.

 

[Cat Stevens]

If every dollar was available after Year 2 and 3 then why did JP tell the people on the summer circuit that the cost of the head coach would mean increases for the ticket holder. Why was he underpaid and year 2, 3 and 4. I understand the proposal that was on the table at the end of Year 5 but the chain was being pulled for 3 years.

I also think it’s fair to acknowledge that Fred was actively looking for other job opportunities in response to JP’s screwing around and the fact that Carol and him didn’t like the fishbowl.

This is crazy. Wow.

Fred got a job with no experience and no qualifications. He didn’t get cheated by Iowa State.

was it you that said he turned down golden state when they hired Kerr? If he was so desperate to get out why would he have done that? It was a budding dynasty

 

[CyCrazy]

What the hell does it matter how good Hoiberg was? It's completely irrelevant to the current program issues. Pollard didn't choose Prohm over Hoiberg.

Stop, it doesn't fit the Fred fan boy's narrative.

 

[Cyched]

The Fred screwed ISU/ISU screwed Fred bickering is an odd argument. Fred brought our program up from the gutter and made us nationally relevant. ISU provides a launching pad for Fred’s career despite having zero experience. It was a mutually beneficial arrangement. Move on.

 

[Rabbuk]

We're getting off course from this threads thesis, which is Prohm sucks.

 

[CloneFan4]

I could just see you talking to your grandkids in 20 years, as you’re drooling all of yourself, telling them about the Hoiberg glory years.

It was the best run in Iowa State basketball and I was a student for most of it. Of ******* course I'm going to do this

 

[CTTB78]

So we all agree Prohm is likely back next year but what coaching changes do we think we might see. Does he just clean house as a Hail Mary? Any coaches we actually want to see stay?

Unless a Georgia Tech or Wake Forest comes calling (which is very doubtful) CSP will be here for at least next year. My watch after next week is 1) will a assistant move on or retire, and can we get a defensive minded replacement, and 2) will we sign a grad transfer PG who can shoot?

 

[Urbandale2013]

Unless a Georgia Tech or Wake Forest comes calling (which is very doubtful) CSP will be here for at least next year. My watch after next week is 1) will a assistant move on or retire, and can we get a defensive minded replacement, and 2) will we sign a grad transfer PG who can shoot?

My question was about assistants. Which ones do we want to move on from?

 

[rochclone]

This is crazy. Wow.

Fred got a job with no experience and no qualifications. He didn’t get cheated by Iowa State.

was it you that said he turned down golden state when they hired Kerr? If he was so desperate to get out why would he have done that? It was a budding dynasty

You know damn well it wasn’t me that said he turned down the Golden State job. He was paid a the 7th-8th salary in the conference in Year 3, 4 and 5. Jamie made a decision on what we could pay. He probably felt that Fred should be grateful for the opportunity afforded him and give his alma mater a 20-30% market discount.
The University of Minnesota job was closer to happening to than most people know.
Guy won 115 games in five years. An average of 23 wins a year. That’s better than anyone we ever had.
Fred isn’t coming back but as long as JP goes and hires TJ, Craig Smith or Nagy I think any of those can exceed the 18 wins (averaged) a year that we have had under Prohm.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

You know damn well it wasn’t me that said he turned down the Golden State job. He was paid a the 7th-8th salary in the conference in Year 3, 4 and 5. Jamie made a decision on what we could pay. He probably felt that Fred should be grateful for the opportunity afforded him and give his alma mater a 20-30% market discount.
The University of Minnesota job was closer to happening to than most people know.
Guy won 115 games in five years. An average of 23 wins a year. That’s better than anyone we ever had.
Fred isn’t coming back but as long as JP goes and hires TJ, Craig Smith or Nagy I think any of those can exceed the 18 wins (averaged) a year that we have had under Prohm.

So Prohm wins 20 next year to exceed his average......job well done?

 

[rochclone]

No one is happier that the program is failing as you. You hated Prohm from day one. You will hate any other future coach not named Fred. All you do is talk about the past and constantly talk about your obsession, Hoiberg.

If we hire Craig Smith, TJ or Nagy it could work. There was legitimate interest from Altman in 2015. That was the chance we had at aHC with P5 experience. But the price tag was a non-starter.

 

[alarson]

We're getting off course from this threads thesis, which is Prohm sucks.

 

[rochclone]

So Prohm wins 20 next year to exceed his average......job well done?

If he wins 20 games in 2020-21 then he will keep job and have another opportunity in 2021-22 to gain some consistency with this program. I’ve always said that a tun around is much better than a reboot but we need to be more competitive.

 

[kingcy]

This is crazy. Wow.

Fred got a job with no experience and no qualifications. He didn’t get cheated by Iowa State.

was it you that said he turned down golden state when they hired Kerr? If he was so desperate to get out why would he have done that? It was a budding dynasty

ISU gave Fred the chance to get into coaching. He has added a lot of wealth to his band account because of that chance. He also agreed to those contracts. Didn't he interview for something like 12 NBA jobs before getting his 2nd of 3 dream jobs?

 

[ISUAgronomist]

We're getting off course from this threads thesis, which is Prohm sucks.

It's 2:11pm and Prohm still sucks.

 

[CycloneErik]

It's 2:11pm and Prohm still sucks.

I'll go ahead and predict that he won't be any better by 5:11 pm.

 

[CyCrazy]

You know damn well it wasn’t me that said he turned down the Golden State job. He was paid a the 7th-8th salary in the conference in Year 3, 4 and 5. Jamie made a decision on what we could pay. He probably felt that Fred should be grateful for the opportunity afforded him and give his alma mater a 20-30% market discount.
The University of Minnesota job was closer to happening to than most people know.
Guy won 115 games in five years. An average of 23 wins a year. That’s better than anyone we ever had.
Fred isn’t coming back but as long as JP goes and hires TJ, Craig Smith or Nagy I think any of those can exceed the 18 wins (averaged) a year that we have had under Prohm.

Are you Fred's dad or brother?

 

[CyCrazy]

I'll go ahead and predict that he won't be any better by 5:11 pm.

He will still not be good by 4.

 

[CycloneErik]

He will still not be good by 4.

I'll aim higher. We can pick any time on any day, and he's still bad.