Info on Lard

[MJ271]

But the player Cam was nearest to and guarding did not get the rebound. No...that was two other Baylor players...who had ISU players in the area responsible to block them out and rebound themselves.

And as I asked earlier, was the game plan to never let the player he was shadowing alone behind the 3 pt arc? Without that information , we can't say for sure how well Cam performed on this short clip.

The Baylor ball handler on that play was Makai Mason. He destroyed us much of the game coming off of pick and rolls either shooting or getting to the rim, so correct, he was not supposed to be left alone behind the three point arc.

Getting the defense scrambling and out of position greatly contributed to nearly 50% OReb %. The closest guy to Lard didn’t get the rebound because Lard was out of bounds. Cam is out of bounds AND watching on the rebound. That’s a win for Baylor.

Lard wasn’t defending anything on the screen. He was in no man’s land.

Lard pretty clearly effected Mason's shot on the play. He didn't play it perfectly; if he would have been closer to Mason he wouldn't have had to jump for the shot and wouldn't have been as out of position on the rebound. But at the very least Lard gets credit for forcing the first miss.

 

[capitalcityguy]

I realize you're never supposed to admit this on the interwebs, but this hasn't been a particularly good thread for me....

 

[GTO]

Could you imagine playing Duke in the tournament? Who the **** would guard Zion Williamson?

 

[Halincandenza]

Could you imagine playing Duke in the tournament? Who the **** would guard Zion Williamson?

No one can guard him in college so I wouldn't feel too bad. If Duke is in Des Moines and Zion is playing I may have to go.

 

[FinalFourCy]

The Baylor ball handler on that play was Makai Mason. He destroyed us much of the game coming off of pick and rolls either shooting or getting to the rim, so correct, he was not supposed to be left alone behind the three point arc.

First, he was both left alone behind the arc AND allowed to get into the paint due to Lard discouraging neither.
Second, Mason was 4-18 overall and 2-8 on 3Ps. What killed us is exemplified by Hines tweet, which includes horrible lack of execution by Lard resulting in cascading failure. There’s little doubt the staff factors this and Lard’s foul rate into their decision on his PT.

 

[Cydkar]

I realize you're never supposed to admit this on the interwebs, but this hasn't been a particularly good thread for me....

 

[MJ271]

First, he was both left alone behind the arc AND allowed to get into the paint due to Lard discouraging neither.
Second, Mason was 4-18 overall and 2-8 on 3Ps. What killed us is exemplified by Hines tweet, which includes horrible lack of execution by Lard resulting in cascading failure. There’s little doubt the staff factors this and Lard’s foul rate into their decision on his PT.

I'd say the far greater lack of execution is on the backside. Lard was trying to stay attached to the post, thinking that Babb could catch up with Mason, but Lard was still able to get back to effect the shot. On the backside, Talley should have checked the roller to not let him roll quite as easily, and once the shot went up Wigginton needed to get his butt into the guy who got the first rebound. Then after the first rebound, Wigginton should have been able to box out someone, but he missed both guys. I'd blame Lard for maybe 10-20% of the lack of execution on this play.

 

[GTO]

No one can guard him in college so I wouldn't feel too bad. If Duke is in Des Moines and Zion is playing I may have to go.

Solomon Young.

For reference: https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/official-solomon-young-appreciation-thread.226442/

I forgot all about that thread. Some funny ones in there.

 

[CySanka3]

Love me some Lard, give us some good high energy minutes Cam! I'm just rooting for the kid; here's to hoping he dials in and wrecks rims for the next month and 2 years in cardinal and gold plus possibly beyond.

 

[moores2]

I'd say the far greater lack of execution is on the backside. Lard was trying to stay attached to the post, thinking that Babb could catch up with Mason, but Lard was still able to get back to effect the shot. On the backside, Talley should have checked the roller to not let him roll quite as easily, and once the shot went up Wigginton needed to get his butt into the guy who got the first rebound. Then after the first rebound, Wigginton should have been able to box out someone, but he missed both guys. I'd blame Lard for maybe 10-20% of the lack of execution on this play.

Tally completely forgot to box his guy out too. Thought the second shot would go in. and his guy got the third.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

There are all kinds of variables. Agreed. I'm just suggesting that anyone that has watched a lot of basketball over the years would generally recognize that talent-wise he is one of our best players. I would argue top 5.

From there, you then look at effort, consistency, attitude...etc. to see if it works to play him more. So far, those factors have appeared to weigh against his playing time....and probably for good reason.

Athleticism; yes he is top 5. He's still really raw though, and inconsistent with his effort. He also doesn't create for himself very much unless he has his back to the basket. If he fixes those little things and develops a decent 15 footer he will be Pro material.

 

[GTO]

That little kid has some serious swagger.

 

[LindenCy]

Prohm/Lard are going to pull a straight up Pineapple Bowl maneuver:

 

[isucy86]

Would love for Lard to get his act together, but if fans are expecting him to be the difference between winning or losing games- I think we will be disappointed. He has been a shadow of his 2017/18 play. I think a lot of fans think he can turn on a switch and be that guy again.

I have posted it before. I would play George before Cameron.

 

[Cychl82]

Could you imagine playing Duke in the tournament? Who the **** would guard Zion Williamson?

Tyrese lol

 

[FinalFourCy]

I'd say the far greater lack of execution is on the backside. Lard was trying to stay attached to the post, thinking that Babb could catch up with Mason, but Lard was still able to get back to effect the shot. On the backside, Talley should have checked the roller to not let him roll quite as easily, and once the shot went up Wigginton needed to get his butt into the guy who got the first rebound. Then after the first rebound, Wigginton should have been able to box out someone, but he missed both guys. I'd blame Lard for maybe 10-20% of the lack of execution on this play.

Talley and Babb were likely as uncertain as to what Cam was doing as Cam himself. But sure, it takes 4 Cyclones ending up in the paint to stop simple two-man action by Baylor. No wonder we give up open looks.

Lard was trying to stay attached to post? Lard was unintentionally free-lancing imo. He didn’t play the screen but he also didn’t stay with his man. It’s probably closer to 60% on Lard, 20% on Babb for allowing Mason to easily use the ball screen, 20% on Talley and Wigginton for not responding to their teammates mistakes.

 

[nfrine]

Serious question...did the team play better after Wiggs and/or Lard returned?

 

[capitalcityguy]

Serious question...did the team play better after Wiggs and/or Lard returned?

It was weaker competition...before Big 12 so hard to say. Right? I think it is easy to fall into that trap.

Look at last year. We were 10-2 last year going into Big 12 play. We all know how that ended up.

https://cyclones.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1162

 

[wgleason]

Could you imagine playing Duke in the tournament? Who the **** would guard Zion Williamson?

First choice would Matt Leo or Uwazurike

 

[FinalFourCy]

Serious question...did the team play better after Wiggs and/or Lard returned?

It didn’t get unequivocally better.