Iowa State vs. Oklahoma Post-Game Thread

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What a great effort in the second half by these guys. Great defensive effort and shot selection was improved over the last couple games at Hilton. Good win for Steve and his staff. Get another on Saturday at Texas

Agree, guys were running around like crazy madmen with an agenda on defense. They were hustling after loose balls too. Refreshing to see and even though the game was close early, based on the effort they were showing, didn't really have much doubt of them losing.
 

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I was planning to complain about rebounding as it seems like we are constantly giving up offensive rebounds but then I saw we out rebounded OU 35-30. I think that had to do with the fact that we shot 51% for the game including almost 48% from 3. In the first half it seemed like they were out hustling us on the boards which IMO was the difference in the Baylor and TCU games. Too many second chance points. It's partly because we play 4 guards and teams with big athletic guys are just going over us. We need to do a better job blocking out and drawing some over the back fouls. Always happy for a win and support our players and coaches.

I think sometime they try to run out before possessing the ball, you are right they might need to stick around and block out more. Their offensive sets are more than good enough to still get a high percentage shot if they have to run it in the half court

Actually I thought ISU got more 2nd chance points last night on rebounds.
 

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Fair enough. They haven't looked like anything special to me all season but it's a matter of opinion.

Pretty average teams make the tourney every single year. OU isn't BAD. They are just average maybe above average a bit. That also doesn't mean a 17 point win is something to just toss aside. They are a likely tourney team but were also playing better, having won their last two.
 

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I was planning to complain about rebounding as it seems like we are constantly giving up offensive rebounds but then I saw we out rebounded OU 35-30. I think that had to do with the fact that we shot 51% for the game including almost 48% from 3. In the first half it seemed like they were out hustling us on the boards which IMO was the difference in the Baylor and TCU games. Too many second chance points. It's partly because we play 4 guards and teams with big athletic guys are just going over us. We need to do a better job blocking out and drawing some over the back fouls. Always happy for a win and support our players and coaches.
 

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Good solid home win. Just curious what some of you consider a good win? OU has the following rankings on The Net-40, KenPom-40 and the RPI-31.

That was a convincing win over a currently right side of the bubble tournament team which makes it a nice win. Oklahoma's going to need to win 1 of their last 2 (vs Kansas, @KState) or get an upset in KC to be completely safe imo. They're above Lunardi's "last 4 byes" right now fwiw so they likely have some wiggle room.

I would consider our "good wins" though @TexasTech, @KState, Kansas, Ole Miss, and @Oklahoma. Those 4 road wins are all considered Quad 1A wins. The Kansas home win could move into that category too when the NET updates, it's currently borderline.
 

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Really nice second half effort by the guys. I thought THT played within himself for the most part. An aggressive Shayok is what we need the rest of the year. And how about that defensive performance?

Outside of his couple bad step backs and off balanced shots, he had some tremendous dishes and was awesome around the basket.

He's going to be a great facilitator next year!
 
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I haven't seen it mentioned yet but I see signs the THT is becoming the leader of the team the past couple of games. I wanted to see how he followed his twitter comments up after the TCU game about fans doubting the team and Talen showed up.
THT was aggressive to the rim from the start getting to the rim, and is getting more vocal through out the game. I also felt that Talen took it upon himself to end the game the last 6 minutes. Shayok was equally as good to get the lead (with THT in foul trouble) but I felt Talen was the one who provided the knock out 3 and later steal that ended it. Very good signs for the rest of the year and assuming he comes back for next season.
 
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That was a convincing win over a currently right side of the bubble tournament team which makes it a nice win. Oklahoma's going to need to win 1 of their last 2 (vs Kansas, @KState) or get an upset in KC to be completely safe imo. They're above Lunardi's "last 4 byes" right now fwiw so they likely have some wiggle room.

I would consider our "good wins" though @TexasTech, @KState, Kansas, Ole Miss, and @Oklahoma. Those 4 road wins are all considered Quad 1A wins. The Kansas home win could move into that category too when the NET updates, it's currently borderline.
That would put me in a happy space...but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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Oklahoma doesn't suck, most mock brackets still have them safely in the tourney right now as a 9 or 10 seed. They just won in Fort Worth a week ago, something we failed to do.
They recently beat a TCU team without Noi. Also beat Texas without Roach on Saturday.
 

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I thought this was really positive:

“Shayok texted Prohm before the game letting him know he was prepared to do whatever it takes to win from here on out.”

''I just wanted to make sure I have no regrets leaving Iowa State. I'm going to leave it all out there for sure,'' Shayok said.
After watching the Baylor postgame presser and seeing Shayok fuming, I felt good about him providing a spark down the stretch. Going in to Saturday at TCU, I was expecting him to have a big game, but he got hit with two quick fouls and sat most of the first half. The "Shayok had an off game at TCU" narrative is just lazy. I'm not sure he even played 15 minutes. It wasn't like he played 37 and went 2-18 from the field. He probably would have been the difference at TCU had he not been hit with early foul trouble.

Regardless, I'm hoping we've identified the guy who is going to lead us down the stretch.
 

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I was planning to complain about rebounding as it seems like we are constantly giving up offensive rebounds but then I saw we out rebounded OU 35-30. I think that had to do with the fact that we shot 51% for the game including almost 48% from 3. In the first half it seemed like they were out hustling us on the boards which IMO was the difference in the Baylor and TCU games. Too many second chance points. It's partly because we play 4 guards and teams with big athletic guys are just going over us. We need to do a better job blocking out and drawing some over the back fouls. Always happy for a win and support our players and coaches.

I think one of the underappreciated stats from last night's game was rebounding. Specifically:

Shayok 6, Babb 8, Wigginton 6. We've needed those guys to dig into the paint and get those longer rebounds, and last night they did. Lindell's big rebound in the second half was ferocious. Looked like he had jet shoes on.
 

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I actually think its pretty mellow. Wins tend to send the biggest critic back to the catacombs of where he dwells, waiting for the opportunity of the shade a loss provides to come back out and provide unsupported comments and meanderings about program apocalypse.

Yeah... tough morning for the Steve Prohm can't coach crowd.
 

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Yeah... tough morning for the Steve Prohm can't coach crowd.

He can coach, but I still get frustrated with how timeouts are used. Talk with assistant coaches for a minute, talk to players for 30 seconds, and go sit on the bench while the on the floor team talks to each other, or refs, or whoever else is out there. I can understand knowing that these guys need to figure it out for themselves, but of the great coaches out there not too many share this style.
 

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He can coach, but I still get frustrated with how timeouts are used. Talk with assistant coaches for a minute, talk to players for 30 seconds, and go sit on the bench while the on the floor team talks to each other, or refs, or whoever else is out there. I can understand knowing that these guys need to figure it out for themselves, but of the great coaches out there not too many share this style.

JFC
 

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He coached this team way better than most would. Also, it may be different if he hadn't had so many senior leaders for the majority of his years here. I am not sure if he had the same style last year or not. Just saying it is different from vast majority of coaches, and as a classic basketball fan it seems unproductive.
 

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After watching the Baylor postgame presser and seeing Shayok fuming, I felt good about him providing a spark down the stretch. Going in to Saturday at TCU, I was expecting him to have a big game, but he got hit with two quick fouls and sat most of the first half. The "Shayok had an off game at TCU" narrative is just lazy. I'm not sure he even played 15 minutes. It wasn't like he played 37 and went 2-18 from the field. He probably would have been the difference at TCU had he not been hit with early foul trouble.

Regardless, I'm hoping we've identified the guy who is going to lead us down the stretch.

Yeah, agree. He played 16 minutes due to foul trouble, and I think the team finally had it rolling in the second half, and Prohm is definitely a guy who sticks with the hot lineup.
 

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Yeah, agree. He played 16 minutes due to foul trouble, and I think the team finally had it rolling in the second half, and Prohm is definitely a guy who sticks with the hot lineup.

I almost hate to say this, but one my frustrations with Prohm has been not playing certain guys in foul trouble. Shayok isn’t very foul prone, and he only ended up with 3 fouls.

That being said, when Shayok had 3 fouls when he gave up an easy layup to a 41% FT shooter, so maybe it wasn’t a bad idea to sit him until he didn’t need to play cautiously.