NET/KenPom/BPI/Sagarin vs Bracketologists

[Cydkar]

Jumped 4 spots without playing. We should have skipped tuesday night as well.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

 

[Crookedhatkid]

Jumped 4 spots without playing. We should have skipped tuesday night as well.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Thank you San Diego St.

 

[SCyclone]

ISU dropped from 13th to 18th in the NET rankings after last night's loss

This morning they're at #14.

 

[cyclones500]

Thank you San Diego St.

Yep. It helped having Nevada, Lou-uh-vul and LSU all lose last night.

 

[cyclonepower]

if we beat TCU we could have 5 top 50 NET road wins...that would look good to the committee

 

[brokenloginagain]

i'm not really sure its worth it to worry about seeding with this team.

we could lose as a 4 seed in the first round, we could make the s16 as a 7 seed.

i almost like our chances better if we are a higher seed.

 

[Cyclonepride]

i'm not really sure its worth it to worry about seeding with this team.

we could lose as a 4 seed in the first round, we could make the s16 as a 7 seed.

i almost like our chances better if we are a higher seed.

Good point, and I agree it may not matter. However, I'm still hoping we can be a 4 or 5.

 

[Cydkar]

i'm not really sure its worth it to worry about seeding with this team.

we could lose as a 4 seed in the first round, we could make the s16 as a 7 seed.

i almost like our chances better if we are a higher seed.

I still think seeding is important. None of the tournament games will be at Hilton.

 

[SCyclone]

The separation between the teams in the middle teens must be razor thin.

I think what helps us the most in that regard is the Luck rating. This is the deviation between a team's actual record, and what their record would expect to be using the correlated gaussian method. A negative number indicates that the team hasn't been as lucky as most, whereas a positive number indicates a team that has been fortunate.

We have a higher negative rating than any team above us (there are only two teams from 1-12 that have negative luck ratings, Michigan State and Wisconsin. The team immediately below us (Auburn) has a bigger negative rating than we do. So apparently with a couple breaks, our record could be better.

 

[VeloClone]

I think what helps us the most in that regard is the Luck rating. This is the deviation between a team's actual record, and what their record would expect to be using the correlated gaussian method. A negative number indicates that the team hasn't been as lucky as most, whereas a positive number indicates a team that has been fortunate.

We have a higher negative rating than any team above us (there are only two teams from 1-12 that have negative luck ratings, Michigan State and Wisconsin. The team immediately below us (Auburn) has a bigger negative rating than we do. So apparently with a couple breaks, our record could be better.

It sounds like it gives a negative "luck" rating to a team that is inconsistent...

 

[jsb]

It sounds like it gives a negative "luck" rating to a team that is inconsistent...

Or maybe a negative luck rating to teams who haven’t won close games. In the past, we’ve been incredibly lucky to have buzzer beater wins. Iowa has been very lucky this year.

 

[SCyclone]

It sounds like it gives a negative "luck" rating to a team that is inconsistent...

Actually, there is a consistency rating as well.

 

[Doc]

The guy sucks at his job and his job is a nonsense job.

It's crazy someone gets paid money to do what he does.

We have people on this site who do it better and also for free.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Or maybe a negative luck rating to teams who haven’t won close games. In the past, we’ve been incredibly lucky to have buzzer beater wins. Iowa has been very lucky this year.

Do they factor in players rising from the dead right before our game with them? We've had an awful lot of that this year.

 

[jsb]

Do they factor in players rising from the dead right before our game with them? We've had an awful lot of that this year.

It seems like plenty of players get healthy before we play them too. The TCU guy is going to play.

 

[VeloClone]

Do they factor in players rising from the dead right before our game with them? We've had an awful lot of that this year.

Snyder is still in the KSU athletic department isn't he? I bet he had something to do with Wade coming back from the dead...

 

[brokenloginagain]

i'm not really sure its worth it to worry about seeding with this team.

we could lose as a 4 seed in the first round, we could make the s16 as a 7 seed.

i almost like our chances better if we are a higher seed.

every cyclones fav bracketologist jerry palm dropped us to a 6 seed....in Des Moines lol.

i really don't think it matters what we're seeded - let's just start playing better!!

 

[awd4cy]

ISU dropped from 13th to 18th in the NET rankings after last night's loss

And you guys are now down to 30th. Requiring 3 miracles to beat garbage teams isn’t helping you guys.

 

[NoCreativity]

6 seed....in Des Moines lol.

Sign me up for that!! I would much rather have that path against a 3 seed like Houston or Wisconsin than end up as a 4 or 5 in San Jose.

 

[jsb]

Sign me up for that!! I would much rather have that path against a 3 seed like Houston or Wisconsin than end up as a 4 or 5 in San Jose.

I've got lower level seats for sale. Special for Iowa/Kansas State fans is $700 for the whole thing! You in?