Young usually holds his own with the real big guys that maybe move a little slower. He struggles against the athletic stretch-4 players though. Hopefully Jacobson will be better at guarding those types of guys.
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Young usually holds his own with the real big guys that maybe move a little slower. He struggles against the athletic stretch-4 players though. Hopefully Jacobson will be better at guarding those types of guys.
I agree, I was just saying that if Solo can really nail down that skillset that he should go ahead and roll with it. I agree that currently Lard looks better with his back to the basket, but I've seen Solo show flashes of potential there.
I guess when your argument is weak, you can always resort to spelling wars.
There is nothing inherently inefficient about scoring with post with his back to the basket, it's still the best way to get a big the ball with deep position. It's as much or more to do with the fact that since Garnett and other bigs started becoming effective almost exclusively facing the basket, every big with an ounce of athleticism thinks they are a wing. It's inefficient because there are few athletic bigs with skill and comfort with their back to the basket.
I think Young has more upside because Jacobson is more of a hard-nosed hustle guy that's going to get garbage points, and that's fine. He'll have a role. But I think his skills are closer to being maxed out.
Young has shown a nice baby hook with both hands and uses the glass well in the post. He has a nice shooting stroke, and this is the first year we've really asked him to add that to his game. Hopefully he improves there.
Young is solid defensively, but I think he has the skills to also be an above average offensive player. I'm not sure Jacobson has those offensive skills.
Not sure what screams above average offensively about Young.
Lard is above average.
Young may be a better defender, but is average at best on the offensive end.
As of now, Solomon is averaging 2.1 ppg more than Jeff Beverly. One basket/game.
I think you're gonna be pleasantly surprised when you see Jacobson's offensive game next year. It hasn't translated at all but his shot looks really nice too fwiw.
I agree that there is nothing inherently inefficient about scoring with your back to the basket, and it depends on your personnel, but the data still shows that, on the whole, shots off of post-ups result in less points than other options.
Getting the ball inside-out is very important for good offense, but you can get there two ways, by post-ups and by driving the ball. Driving and dishing is often preferable to post entry is because your drivers are usually more capable of passing once they get inside than a big guy posting up.
All that being said, Solomon has been good posting up so I'm all for them throwing it in there too him.
He has a great looking shot, but it hasn't really gone in much.
I haven't seen anything from Young to suggest he isn't just a hard-nosed hustle guy that gets garbage points.
I think they're both scrappy gym rats that you'd love your daughter to date.
Raw stats in an efficiency discussion? Interesting.
Young is an efficient player, certainly much more so than Beverly. But is he the most effective player right now? Depends on the other four. With guards that aren’t good passers, don’t swing the ball and favor pounding the ball over post entries his game is diminished.
He’s a promising underclassman, if we develop him.
Everyone needs to remember Young was a developmental 3 star big that really has exceeded expectations for his impact through 1.5 years. Most posts with his profile aren't even expected to contribute until their Jr. and Sr. years. He's actually ahead of the curve in his expected development and has room for growth in his all around game. (BTW from that perspective Lard impact as a Freshman is special)
Solomon was the hard nosed hustle role player last year which is what last years team needed. This year he has shown a willingness to refine his post game and to shoot from outside. He has made improvements from year 1 to year 2, another year in the system he may get the extended range he is showing glimpses off.
We shouldn't limit Young to only being a "hustle" player for his entire Cyclone career after 30 games.
Agree with the others above, think at best he's a body / banger / scrappy player.
In order to be an elite post, needs to be better back to the basket and needs to learn how to pass out of the post. I realize he's young, but so is Lard - and he screams above average scoring post.
I hope he can develop. I'd love to be wrong. There is nothing wrong with being a non-scoring efficient post player, every good team has them.. but lets not make him be something he is not - an above average offensive scorer.
Unfortunately he is 4-19 lifetime from three. The last thing we need from him is an 'outside game'
Was really hoping he would be a tremendous rebounder and defender for us. His rebounding is mildly improved, but thought he could do more than 5 per game. He needs to learn to be lock down D and tenacious rebounder.
Prohm wants his bigs to shoot from outside if left open. It is pretty obvious Solo has the green light this year to do so and has shot a few time each game this far. He is on record that was an emphasis to add to his game this summer the shot looks pretty good coming out of his hand. I think that is an aspect can be added to his game in the next year. I know the results haven't been there yet but I don't see the coaches telling him to only shoot from 10 ft in.
I may be in the minority but this is pretty much what I expected from him production wise.
I don't see a different player from last year. I like the kid and am glad he is at ISU. I just think he is limited in what he can do. The game changer for me is if he could develop an outside shot.
Wow, some poor reading comprehension here. I just told you what "screams" above average offensive player. I also was commenting on the upside of Young. Upside refers to potential, which is ability that is yet to be realized.
Young has shown a nice baby hook with both hands. He gets the ball high on the glass and has nice touch around the basket. Those are skills he has displayed. If he can get more touches and make that a consistent part of the offense, he could be an above average offensive player.
Watch again. He has shown some offensive skills over 1.5 seasons. It's a matter of refinement and consistency.
I'm guessing you didn't watch Jacobson much, if at all, while he was at Nebraska. It's easy to see potential in someone when you watch them and like them. If Solomon didn't play basketball for Iowa State you wouldn't know a thing about him or say he has a lot of potential.
