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The fans just didn't want Schiano and used this to pour gas on the fire. John Gruden could have been in the shower with Sandusky and they wouldn't have brought it up.
Booger MacFarland was on Wingo and Mike Golich's radio show this morning and reiterated that this was the case. Booger mentioned Dan Wetzel, who has followed the Sandusky/PSU situation as closely as any journalist and said that there is no proof at all that Sciano knew anything while at Penn St. In fact, here is Wetzel's reply to a tweet (that has since been deleted) that is pretty clear about where Sciano's reputation would be had there been any proof that he knew anything about Sandusky:

 
In today’s world I can’t see how many of these “premier” jobs are overly attractive except for money. Expectations that can only be met by winning national titles and 9 win seasons are a fireable offense. This thread was started was started with Mclewains firing, imagine his path had he stayed at CSU instead of going to Florida. He could’ve been a legend there surpassing Sonny Lubick but is now a cautionary tale of someone not ready for prime time.

I’m truly amazed that more coaches don’t look at guys like Snyder, Patterson, and Ferentz and realize that most of the time building your own program where the pressure isn’t as intense is better long term both financially and professionally. Sure there are guys like Saban and Meyer that came up through the MAC, etc. But I’d have to believe that for every one of them there are 10 who are now coordinators, position coaches, HC at a smaller school than they came from, or not coaching.
 
At what point do we see one of these teams come out and hire Mr. Firmly Entrenched?

Nobody is that desperate. Yet.

Tennessee is a dumpster fire right now. They think they're Miss America but they're really that bar hopping 56 YO chubby overly made-up 4 timed-divorcee who thinks she's gonna get swept off her feet by George Clooney's richer brother any day now.
 
In today’s world I can’t see how many of these “premier” jobs are overly attractive except for money. Expectations that can only be met by winning national titles and 9 win seasons are a fireable offense. This thread was started was started with Mclewains firing, imagine his path had he stayed at CSU instead of going to Florida. He could’ve been a legend there surpassing Sonny Lubick but is now a cautionary tale of someone not ready for prime time.

I’m truly amazed that more coaches don’t look at guys like Snyder, Patterson, and Ferentz and realize that most of the time building your own program where the pressure isn’t as intense is better long term both financially and professionally. Sure there are guys like Saban and Meyer that came up through the MAC, etc. But I’d have to believe that for every one of them there are 10 who are now coordinators, position coaches, HC at a smaller school than they came from, or not coaching.
I liked that post because I, for the most part, agree with the point. However, most of these guys are driven at a whole different level by their egos. They want to be considered the best or among the best coaches and want to stay at the top of the profession. Tough to do that at places like Kansas State, TCU or Iowa. Those three have done it, but look at places like Illinois, Minnesota, Kentucky, even Iowa State. Guys stay because they like the place and the expectations aren't the same, so they have security. Ultimately, either the difficulty of coaching and winning at these schools or complacency catches up to them and 7/8 win seasons turn in to 4/5 win seasons and fans become restless, attendance dips, etc. Then they get let go from a lower profile place and have to completely start over as something like a MAC coach or a coordinator or lower level coach at a big school. Meanwhile, Sumlin gets fired at TAM and will end up at another P5 program. Same with Charlie Strong, Rich Rodriguez, etc. Les Miles could coach just about anywhere right now.
 
I liked that post because I, for the most part, agree with the point. However, most of these guys are driven at a whole different level by their egos. They want to be considered the best or among the best coaches and want to stay at the top of the profession. Tough to do that at places like Kansas State, TCU or Iowa. Those three have done it, but look at places like Illinois, Minnesota, Kentucky, even Iowa State. Guys stay because they like the place and the expectations aren't the same, so they have security. Ultimately, either the difficulty of coaching and winning at these schools or complacency catches up to them and 7/8 win seasons turn in to 4/5 win seasons and fans become restless, attendance dips, etc. Then they get let go from a lower profile place and have to completely start over as something like a MAC coach or a coordinator or lower level coach at a big school. Meanwhile, Sumlin gets fired at TAM and will end up at another P5 program. Same with Charlie Strong, Rich Rodriguez, etc. Les Miles could coach just about anywhere right now.

I completely agree and fully understand the drive to get to the top. And for some it’s a fulfilled journey (Saban, Meyer, Brian Kelly, ) and that possibility is obviously appealing.

Bill Snyder has a stadium named after his family. That also has to be appealing.
 
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Florida- Dan Mullen
UCLA- Chip Kelly
Tennesee-
Nebraska-
Texas A&M-
Mississippi St-
Arkansas-
Ole Miss- Matt Luke
Arizona St-

Ole Miss took the interim tag off of Matt Luke and made hime head coach. 4 years 12.6 mil.
 
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Florida- Dan Mullen
UCLA- Chip Kelly
Tennesee-
Nebraska-
Texas A&M-
Mississippi St-
Arkansas-
Ole Miss- Matt Luke
Arizona St-

Ole Miss took the interim tag off of Matt Luke and made hime head coach. 4 years 12.6 mil.
No one is really talking about Mora. I think he's a solid coach who could land one of those jobs.
 
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ASU want Sumlin - they wanted him when he left Houston and now they still want him. It feels like trying to marry a girl who rejected you to marry someone else and now trying to marry her again after she gets dumped by her ex hubby.
 
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Cutcliff just turned down Tennessee. Wow, he has a long history there too.
 
He might just be trying to get a raise too.

This is funny. I'm glad we aren't the only fan base that stalks flight tracker haha



Might just be angling for a raise, but I thought article said he just inked a new contract this summer. Kind of crappy if true.

I think this would be bad if a successful Big 12 coach wants to jump into a dumpster fire just because it is SEC. I hope our conferences coaches are not thinking that the Big 12 is a short timer.
 
Wow this is surprising if true.
Gundy reportedly meeting with Tennessee.
https://247sports.com/college/oklah...G-NEWS-Tennessee-Meeting-with-Gundy-111294001



This would suck for OSU. I hope it's just talk and nothing more. I don't want to see a good coach leave the conference and go to a damn SEC team. Besides, if it comes to money, I think there is plenty of T Boone money to be thrown at Gundy to keep him there. This move would be a shocker to me. I'm guessing Gundy taking the meeting is more of a "not closing that door for the future" move than anything.

@andyokstate, any news on your end about this?
 

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