OT - Cutting Cable

Does PS Vue have to be to streamed on a PS or can it be streamed on a Amazon Fire Stick?
PS Vue is available on most of the steaming devices
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/vue/faq/supported-devices-and-set-up/

  • PlayStation®4 consoles
  • PlayStation®3 consoles
  • Roku® streaming devices (firmware 7.1 and up)
  • Amazon Fire TV (all gens)
  • Apple TV® (4th gen running OS 10.0 and up)
  • Android TV (Android OS 4.4 and up)
  • On the web at psvue.com/watch (most recent versions of Chrome, Firefox, Safari and Microsoft Edge, as well as previous “ever-green” versions. PlayStation™Vue on the Web requires Flash Player.)
 
Our contract is up with DirecTV. We have CenturyLink and honestly I love their service and I've never had any problem with speed. I've been reading up on all of these services, and I think we'll get two apple TV boxes for the TV's in our house.

I've basically got two questions on the services:

1. Which one has the best DVR type thing?

2. I don't get how ABC/CBS locals in general work. I've read like 3 articles on it but just don't get it. I don't really care if we get locals specifically, I do want to have the major networks streamed though the service but don't particularly care if they are locals. I'm honestly just not going to mess with an antenna.

Thinking really strongly about Vue, but the locals thing is the only thing stopping me from dropping Direct.

They all vary. Hulu Live has Fox and CBS live, but ABC and NBC are On-Demand only.
 
I've been on Hulu live for a week it takes some getting used to but that sports lineup: eeeewwwww weeeeeeeeee its hot *******.

I understand that I'm getting older and was never all that 'hip' at any time in my life.

But I can't figure out if you're excited, angry, or had some bad clams last night . . . :confused: :D
 
They all vary. Hulu Live has Fox and CBS live, but ABC and NBC are On-Demand only.

So you can still watch the shows but they are just delayed? And they are still available through Hulu Live, or you have to use a different app? I'm trying to think of any sports I'd miss on ABC or NBC and can't really think of any. I don't watch any shows the day they air anyway.
 
So you can still watch the shows but they are just delayed? And they are still available through Hulu Live, or you have to use a different app? I'm trying to think of any sports I'd miss on ABC or NBC and can't really think of any. I don't watch any shows the day they air anyway.

Basically you are able to watch shows as soon as the channel puts them on their on-demand site, and you just log in through Hulu Live. Watch ESPN/ESPN3 will have ABC games, so it's just NBC that you'd be missing sports on. Luckily for me, it's one of the easy OTA signals to get in Des Moines.
 
Basically you are able to watch shows as soon as the channel puts them on their on-demand site, and you just log in through Hulu Live. Watch ESPN/ESPN3 will have ABC games, so it's just NBC that you'd be missing sports on. Luckily for me, it's one of the easy OTA signals to get in Des Moines.

Same with PS Vue. There is an NBC sports app on Fire TV. I used it to watch Sunday Night Football last week and it didn't require any login/sign up. Not sure how/why that works.
 
Our contract is up with DirecTV. We have CenturyLink and honestly I love their service and I've never had any problem with speed. I've been reading up on all of these services, and I think we'll get two apple TV boxes for the TV's in our house.

I've basically got two questions on the services:

1. Which one has the best DVR type thing?

2. I don't get how ABC/CBS locals in general work. I've read like 3 articles on it but just don't get it. I don't really care if we get locals specifically, I do want to have the major networks streamed though the service but don't particularly care if they are locals. I'm honestly just not going to mess with an antenna.

Thinking really strongly about Vue, but the locals thing is the only thing stopping me from dropping Direct.


1. Your DVR capability won't be based on the streaming box you buy (AppleTV, Roku... etc.), but will rather be based off what streaming service you purchase (DirectTV Now, Hulu, Playstation Vue... etc.). Some have that capability right now and some don't. Read back through this thread and you'll see people discuss which DVR setup is best per streaming service.

2. When it comes to locals, I do not know of any streaming service yet that provides them, so as of right now, pretty much every cord cutter out there has to just get the locals through the air or use some type of on-demand watching after-the-fact through their channel apps. In my opinion, I've never gotten why people whine so much about antennas unless they are someplace that can't even get a signal even with the best outdoor antenna. Most people who whine about antennas use indoor ones, which is just straight up annoying and stupid unless you are forced to do so by living in an apartment. If you own a house, just pony up and get an outdoor one. I paid $50 for my antenna/mount combo and paid a guy $100 to install everything (he did a great job). One of the best investments I've ever made. For a one-time payment of $150, I now have local channels for life (did mine 8 years ago). Pretty tough to beat. With the setup of it in your house, now that you are a cord-cutter, what else do you use all your coax jacks around the house for anyway other than maybe one dedicated jack possibly for your cable internet? They now work perfect for hooking them all up to an outdoor antenna. Bingo.
 
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Same with PS Vue. There is an NBC sports app on Fire TV. I used it to watch Sunday Night Football last week and it didn't require any login/sign up. Not sure how/why that works.

I think since you're already logged in to PS Vue, it automatically logs you into the app with those credentials?
 
I think since you're already logged in to PS Vue, it automatically logs you into the app with those credentials?
Man I wish, FireTV does not have single sign on. I think I saw AppleTV is rolling it out
 
2. When it comes to locals, I do not know of any streaming service yet that provides them, so as of right now, pretty much every cord cutter out there has to just get the locals through the air or use some type of on-demand watching after-the-fact through their channel apps. In my opinion, I've never gotten why people whine so much about antennas unless they are someplace that can't even get a signal even with the best outdoor antenna. Most people who whine about antennas use indoor ones, which is just straight up annoying and stupid unless you are forced to do so by living in an apartment. If you own a house, just pony up and get an outdoor one. I paid $50 for my antenna/mount combo and paid a guy $100 to install everything (he did a great job). One of the best investments I've ever made. For a one-time payment of $150, I now have local channels for life (did mine 8 years ago). Pretty tough to beat. With the setup of it in your house, now that you are a cord-cutter, what else do you use all your coax jacks around the house for anyway other than maybe one dedicated jack possibly for your cable internet? They now work perfect for hooking them all up to an outdoor antenna. Bingo.

Basically I want everything I want to watch through one service if possible. I don't want the antenna because basically everything I watch is DVR'd. So if I got an antenna, I'd basically spend $150.00 for no reason. It'd be better to use that money to start backyard fires.
 
1. Your DVR capability won't be based on the streaming box you buy (AppleTV, Roku... etc.), but will rather be based off what streaming service you purchase (DirectTV Now, Hulu, Playstation Vue... etc.). Some have that capability right now and some don't. Read back through this thread and you'll see people discuss which DVR setup is best per streaming service.

2. When it comes to locals, I do not know of any streaming service yet that provides them, so as of right now, pretty much every cord cutter out there has to just get the locals through the air or use some type of on-demand watching after-the-fact through their channel apps. In my opinion, I've never gotten why people whine so much about antennas unless they are someplace that can't even get a signal even with the best outdoor antenna. Most people who whine about antennas use indoor ones, which is just straight up annoying and stupid unless you are forced to do so by living in an apartment. If you own a house, just pony up and get an outdoor one. I paid $50 for my antenna/mount combo and paid a guy $100 to install everything (he did a great job). One of the best investments I've ever made. For a one-time payment of $150, I now have local channels for life (did mine 8 years ago). Pretty tough to beat. With the setup of it in your house, now that you are a cord-cutter, what else do you use all your coax jacks around the house for anyway other than maybe one dedicated jack possibly for your cable internet? They now work perfect for hooking them all up to an outdoor antenna. Bingo.

This! Don't mess with the indoor antennas, spend a few bucks on a good outdoor antenna and put it on your roof or in your attic if you can figure out how to tie it in to the coax that is already distributed through your house.
 
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Basically I want everything I want to watch through one service if possible. I don't want the antenna because basically everything I watch is DVR'd. So if I got an antenna, I'd basically spend $150.00 for no reason. It'd be better to use that money to start backyard fires.

Cable or Satellite
 
I mostly meant like, can I watch everything through an appleTV and DVR stuff. I'm actually really encouraged by what I'm reading about YouTube TV and the channel lineup looks good, just not in Des Moines yet. I'll probably hold out for that.
 
Basically I want everything I want to watch through one service if possible. I don't want the antenna because basically everything I watch is DVR'd. So if I got an antenna, I'd basically spend $150.00 for no reason. It'd be better to use that money to start backyard fires.
If you want everything in a single spot then cord-cutting is not for you. Stick with cable but don't ***** about the cost...

There are plenty of good OTA DVR options (Tablo, Tivo Roamio, Channel Master) but they are pricey to setup on top of the antenna cost. And it will mean switching apps to go from locals to cable networks. It took me 4-5 months to recoup the upfront costs but now I am pocketing $115/month.

I just read that Comcast has raised their "Broadcast Fee" (i.e. retransmission fee for ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) from $1.50/mo in 2014 to $8/mo. That is just crazy for something that is "free" with a little effort with an antenna. This is in addition from the Regional Sports Fee increase from $1/mo in 2015 to $6.50/mo now. $14.50/mo extra above and beyond the advertised price and other taxes and dvr, etc... fees.

These 2 "fees" are a big reason that the networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, RSN's) are flush with cash to pay for sports programming and compete against ESPN / FS1. The trend is not sustainable.
 
We're using Hulu live and love it. The only problem I have is the limited device compatibility. It's not on Roku or computer yet, but it's on Fire, Xbox, PS, Chromecast.

It is on Apple TV, and iOS devices like my iPad Pro.