NFL: Rex Ryan fired as Bills Coach

[fccy]

Rob Ryan also let go today. Anthony Lynn interim coach for last game of season.

Didn't like the hire to start with, and managed to turn the 4th-ranked defense in 2014 into the 19th ranked both last year and this year (with 1 game left). Good riddance.

 

[cyhiphopp]

No ****?

 

[cycloneworld]

2 winning seasons in 8 years as a coach. Quickly becoming the Jeff Fischer of the NFL.

 

[cycloner29]

Any NFL team that would think about picking either one up, needs to be fired!! They just need to go away. They get way to much exposure and are not very good coaches.

 

[isufbcurt]

Any NFL team that would think about picking either one up, needs to be fired!! They just need to go away. They get way to much exposure and are not very good coaches.

That's not how the NFL works. NFL is all about re-threads in the coaching ranks.

 

[CyJack13]

2 winning seasons in 8 years as a coach. Quickly becoming the Jeff Fischer of the NFL.

And watch Fisher end up in Buffalo now.

 

[Mr Janny]

Rex will likely get a D-coordinator gig somewhere, and that seems like a good spot for him. he's not untalented as a coach, maybe just not as the head guy. Ain't no shame in that... well not much shame anyway.

 

[LLCoolCY]

Rob Ryan also let go today. Anthony Lynn interim coach for last game of season.

Didn't like the hire to start with, and managed to turn the 4th-ranked defense in 2014 into the 19th ranked both last year and this year (with 1 game left). Good riddance.

Some some it'll be a year old Tom Coughlin. He would be a figure head with a assistant to groom. One positive the New Owners have a history or paying for a quality coach with Ryan and the Sabers which was a problem with Ralph Wilson.

I am more confused with moving on from Tyrod Taylor, who is getting benched. Guess they want the coach on board with T-God before commiting 30 mil.

 

[jbindm]

I think Ryan is done as a head coach, and maybe with coaching altogether. My guess is that he'll be in a tv studio as an analyst next season, and maybe longer.

 

[Mr Janny]

Some some it'll be a year old Tom Coughlin. He would be a figure head with a assistant to groom. One positive the New Owners have a history or paying for a quality coach with Ryan and the Sabers which was a problem with Ralph Wilson.

I am more confused with moving on from Tyrod Taylor, who is getting benched. Guess they want the coach on board with T-God before commiting 30 mil.

I don't get it either. Tyrod Taylor isn't the best QB in the world, but he's as good or better than just about anyone else they're likely to get out there.

 

[CarlHungus]

2 years seems too short

 

[Mr Janny]

2 years seems too short

I agree. Look at these teams that have these big playoff droughts. A lot of times, they're the ones that get rid of their coaches every other year. Seems like the writing is on the wall. If you're constantly in a state of regime change, it makes it harder to succeed.

 

[jbindm]

I agree. Look at these teams that have these big playoff droughts. A lot of times, they're the ones that get rid of their coaches every other year. Seems like the writing is on the wall. If you're constantly in a state of regime change, it makes it harder to succeed.

That's true, although if an owner is convinced that they hired the wrong guy then it's best to admit the mistake and move on. Otherwise a franchise is just treading water. Look at what's going on with the Colts. A year ago Jim Irsay opted for continuity with Grigson and Pagano. One year later, do they look like they're any closer to figuring it out?

I do agree that there are a lot of cases where a coaching change is made too quickly. But not this time. Other than his first two years with the Jets, a Rex Ryan's teams have never finished better than 8-8. He's just not a very good head coach.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I agree. Look at these teams that have these big playoff droughts. A lot of times, they're the ones that get rid of their coaches every other year. Seems like the writing is on the wall. If you're constantly in a state of regime change, it makes it harder to succeed.

I think this is true. I also think that with Rex Ryan involved it might be more of a personality issue than a coaching issue. He's ruffled some feathers before.

The Buffalo front office might want to cut ties now rather than wait and see if the team improves.

 

[cyhiphopp]

That's true, although if an owner is convinced that they hired the wrong guy then it's best to admit the mistake and move on. Otherwise a franchise is just treading water. Look at what's going on with the Colts. A year ago Jim Irsay opted for continuity with Grigson and Pagano. One year later, do they look like they're any closer to figuring it out?

I do agree that there are a lot of cases where a coaching change is made too quickly. But not this time. Other than his first two years with the Jets, a Rex Ryan's teams have never finished better than 8-8. He's just not a very good head coach.

Not only is he not a very good coach, he also pissed a lot of people off. So that doesn't help.

 

[Mr Janny]

That's true, although if an owner is convinced that they hired the wrong guy then it's best to admit the mistake and move on. Otherwise a franchise is just treading water. Look at what's going on with the Colts. A year ago Jim Irsay opted for continuity with Grigson and Pagano. One year later, do they look like they're any closer to figuring it out?

I do agree that there are a lot of cases where a coaching change is made too quickly. But not this time. Other than his first two years with the Jets, a Rex Ryan's teams have never finished better than 8-8. He's just not a very good head coach.

The Indianapolis Colts are a different situation, though. That's a team used to success and stability in its coaching staff, dealing with the fallout of a hire that's not working out. It's Irsay's nature to give the benefit of the doubt, and there's no doubt that it can bite you when you do that.

But, look at Buffalo's philosophy. Since Marv Levy left, 18 years ago, they've hired 7 coaches. The longest any of them got was **** Jauron, who didn't quite make 4 seasons. Three others got 3 seasons before being let go. The other three got 2 seasons. Their record in that time? 133-170.

 

[jbindm]

You also have to consider the context of where they were as a franchise when they hired him. They didn't fire Doug Marrone - he opted out of his contract to chase another vacancy on the heels of a 9-7 season.

If he had been taking over a three or four win team then you could view this season as progress. But two years in and they were actually worse than when he got there.

Some coaches should get at least three or four years to turn things around; think Hue Jackson in Cleveland. His first year has been terrible and the roster sucks, but he never lost the locker room and they are armed to the teeth with draft picks. That's a guy who should get at least another two seasons. Dirk Koetter is another one. They'll likely miss the playoffs this year but that's a team headed in the right direction.

Other times you just have to admit that you hired the wrong guy for the job and turn the page.

 

[jbindm]

The Indianapolis Colts are a different situation, though. That's a team used to success and stability in its coaching staff, dealing with the fallout of a hire that's not working out. It's Irsay's nature to give the benefit of the doubt, and there's no doubt that it can bite you when you do that.

But, look at Buffalo's philosophy. Since Marv Levy left, 18 years ago, they've hired 7 coaches. The longest any of them got was **** Jauron, who didn't quite make 4 seasons. Three others got 3 seasons before being let go. The other three got 2 seasons. Their record in that time? 133-170.

That's fair, but they didn't fire Doug Marrone. He left on his own.

But yeah, it's easy for teams to get caught up in the hire and fire cycle. At the same time, nobody should have a better idea of a coach's performance than the person signing the checks. If the Pegulas felt like Rex couldn't get it done, then they were right to dump him and move on. It's on them to bring in someone who can show tangible progress and give them a reason to give him more than two years.

 

[jbindm]

The Indianapolis Colts are a different situation, though. That's a team used to success and stability in its coaching staff, dealing with the fallout of a hire that's not working out. It's Irsay's nature to give the benefit of the doubt, and there's no doubt that it can bite you when you do that.

But, look at Buffalo's philosophy. Since Marv Levy left, 18 years ago, they've hired 7 coaches. The longest any of them got was **** Jauron, who didn't quite make 4 seasons. Three others got 3 seasons before being let go. The other three got 2 seasons. Their record in that time? 133-170.

I'd also point out that of all those seven coaches, it's not as if any of them went on to great success as a head coach anywhere else. Wade Phillips, Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey, **** Jauron, Chan Gailey? Not exactly a murderer's row, at least not as head coaches.

So maybe it's less about giving a coach time and more about not hiring someone who is incompetent from the word go.

 

[Mr Janny]

That's fair, but they didn't fire Doug Marrone. He left on his own.

But yeah, it's easy for teams to get caught up in the hire and fire cycle. At the same time, nobody should have a better idea of a coach's performance than the person signing the checks. If the Pegulas felt like Rex couldn't get it done, then they were right to dump him and move on. It's on them to bring in someone who can show tangible progress and give them a reason to give him more than two years.

The Marrone situation is perhaps as big of an indictment of that organization as any. The fact that he would walk away from one of only 32 head coaching jobs in the league, following a winning season even, should tell you everything you need to know about the way that team is managed.