***Iowa postgame thread***

I agree about the surprising and encouraging defense, but poor ball movement leads to poor shooting %. Thomas and Naz are proven threats to shoot much higher than they are. I see no reason why they can't boost that to 38-40% as a team if they are getting open and in-rhythm shots as opposed to half their shots being hoisted up due to no better option when the clock is running down.
Naz hasn't shot well in awhile and when has Thomas shot much higher than 36%?

We are structurally flawed imo. There will not be as many open and in-rhythm looks this year.
 
I think ISU needs to probably only lose 7 games at the most in conference if it wants to go to the tournament and needs to win probably all games at home except maybe KU.

A winning record in this conference is guaranteed in the tourney. 9-9 has also proven to be a fine number to get in. The demise of the Big 12 as the top RPI conference has been greatly exaggerated.
 
Naz hasn't shot well in awhile and when has Thomas shot much higher than 36%?

We are structurally flawed imo. There will not be as many open and in-rhythm looks this year.

43%, just last year. 89-206, so that's a great sample size. Feel free to doom and gloom the future, but those are the facts. He's a very good shooter.

Naz's issues are probably mental. He seems to be as explosive physically as he has ever been (see the alley oop and another dunk against Omaha).

Those guys are both gym rats, so if it can be worked out in the gym, it will be. Still think it's poor shot selection for the most part.
 
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Read through the entire thread, witholding my comments. The only thing I can bring myself to say, that I know I won't regret later, is - that game was not fun. This team seems to have serious issues that they do not appear poised to solve this season.
 
A winning record in this conference is guaranteed in the tourney. 9-9 has also proven to be a fine number to get in. The demise of the Big 12 as the top RPI conference has been greatly exaggerated.

I disagree but I guess we will see. If you win 9 games against Tech, TCU, KSU, OU and OSU but don't beat any of the top 3 teams it will be hard to get in.
 
They were 20-11, 9 games above .500.
My bad on fact checking, I was thinking of two years ago when they were 8-10 in the big 12 with Myles turner, nut there record was Stil 5-6 game over .500. We will finish 5 game over .500 with a 9-9 big 12 season this year, which will get us into he tournament being in the big 12. 8 wins is a bubble team. Anything lower is a nit or no postseason at all
 
My bad on fact checking, I was thinking of two years ago when they were 8-10 in the big 12 with Myles turner, nut there record was Stil 5-6 game over .500. We will finish 5 game over .500 with a 9-9 big 12 season this year, which will get us into he tournament being in the big 12. 8 wins is a bubble team. Anything lower is a nit or no postseason at all
Yes, we're going to have to play our best almost every night, which is by definition not likely
 
A winning record in this conference is guaranteed in the tourney. 9-9 has also proven to be a fine number to get in. The demise of the Big 12 as the top RPI conference has been greatly exaggerated.

That has generally been the case but let's look a little deeper there. Here's the B12 record and RPI ranking in parenthesis for the non-conf portion of the schedule of the teams that have been near .500 in the B12 over the last three years from ESPN. We're currently sitting at 94 at this point in their RPI calculation, which is better to us than where LiveRPI has us at 104.

2016:
Iowa St. 10-8 (15) - NCAA
Baylor 10-8 (19) - NCAA
Texas Tech 9-9 (33) - NCAA

2015:
Texas 8-10 (16) - NCAA

2014:
Baylor 9-9 (10) - NCAA
West Virginia 9-9 (91) - NIT
Oklahoma St. 8-10 (12) - NCAA
 
I put it all on the seniors. It's their team. It's their demeanor. It's their attitudes. It's their accountability and integrity. If it's going to change then it has to start there.
 
I'll give you the timeout usage and end of game situations but the lack of offense is on the players. Go ahead and think that our current situation is a Prohm problem but I'm going to disagree.

We have 5 seniors on the floor and not a single leader. Yep, thanks Steve.
We have zero ball movement and we don't share the ball. Thanks a lot Steve
Young gets himself into good position on the block and we won't pass it down low. Thanks Steve

The one fix IMO that Prohm can put into place is to move Naz & Holden to the Bench for Young and Babb. If we don't make some roster changes then yeah, I think it's fair to start question things. I'm more interested in seeing how our seniors respond after getting punked on their rivals floor unfortunately we won't really know until Big 12 play starts.
**** Steve young
 
To be fair, Holden is averaging 1 point/ game the last two games. ONE! Not even plural. I don't think there is much to think twice about there. Your starter status must be in danger with that.
I'm fine with Holden not scoring. He wasn't brought in to score. He needs to play defense and rebound. But to do that you need to be on the floor not the bench because you are perpetually in foul trouble.
 
Our inside presence is lacking for sure, but I'll repeat what I posted before. The other night in the Omaha game, it took until 17:52 in the second half before a perimeter player threw it into a post who was working hard for position. Everyone is so bummed about the team, and rightly so, but I don't truthfully know whether we aren't wanting to throw it in the post because there's no confidence in that guy scoring, or our guards aren't doing a good enough job looking for them, or the offense isn't devised for them to really do so.

We appear to have enough talent that if open looks aren't there, we should be able to get to the foul line more. Can't remember a game where Monte has shot multiple free throws.
 
Our inside presence is lacking for sure, but I'll repeat what I posted before. The other night in the Omaha game, it took until 17:52 in the second half before a perimeter player threw it into a post who was working hard for position. Everyone is so bummed about the team, and rightly so, but I don't truthfully know whether we aren't wanting to throw it in the post because there's no confidence in that guy scoring, or our guards aren't doing a good enough job looking for them, or the offense isn't devised for them to really do so.

We appear to have enough talent that if open looks aren't there, we should be able to get to the foul line more. Can't remember a game where Monte has shot multiple free throws.
you really shouldn't have
 
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Our inside presence is lacking for sure, but I'll repeat what I posted before. The other night in the Omaha game, it took until 17:52 in the second half before a perimeter player threw it into a post who was working hard for position. Everyone is so bummed about the team, and rightly so, but I don't truthfully know whether we aren't wanting to throw it in the post because there's no confidence in that guy scoring, or our guards aren't doing a good enough job looking for them, or the offense isn't devised for them to really do so.

We appear to have enough talent that if open looks aren't there, we should be able to get to the foul line more. Can't remember a game where Monte has shot multiple free throws.

Our inside presence is lacking for sure, but I'll repeat what I posted before. The other night in the Omaha game, it took until 17:52 in the second half before a perimeter player threw it into a post who was working hard for position. Everyone is so bummed about the team, and rightly so, but I don't truthfully know whether we aren't wanting to throw it in the post because there's no confidence in that guy scoring, or our guards aren't doing a good enough job looking for them, or the offense isn't devised for them to really do so.

We appear to have enough talent that if open looks aren't there, we should be able to get to the foul line more. Can't remember a game where Monte has shot multiple free throws.

Our inside presence is lacking for sure, but I'll repeat what I posted before. The other night in the Omaha game, it took until 17:52 in the second half before a perimeter player threw it into a post who was working hard for position. Everyone is so bummed about the team, and rightly so, but I don't truthfully know whether we aren't wanting to throw it in the post because there's no confidence in that guy scoring, or our guards aren't doing a good enough job looking for them, or the offense isn't devised for them to really do so.

We appear to have enough talent that if open looks aren't there, we should be able to get to the foul line more. Can't remember a game where Monte has shot multiple free throws.

Our inside presence is lacking for sure, but I'll repeat what I posted before. The other night in the Omaha game, it took until 17:52 in the second half before a perimeter player threw it into a post who was working hard for position. Everyone is so bummed about the team, and rightly so, but I don't truthfully know whether we aren't wanting to throw it in the post because there's no confidence in that guy scoring, or our guards aren't doing a good enough job looking for them, or the offense isn't devised for them to really do so.

We appear to have enough talent that if open looks aren't there, we should be able to get to the foul line more. Can't remember a game where Monte has shot multiple free throws.

You're still doing it.

Edit: Cy$ beat me to it. Well done, sir!
 
I say we sit all the starters except Thomas to begin next game. Starting lineup of Jackson, Babb, Young, Bowie, and Thomas. Only bring the rest of the starters in at around the 10 minute mark. Would help give those guys some some valuable experience, while sending a clear message to the regular starters.

There is a reason why we made our run while the starters were sitting during the Iowa game. The bench guys were playing with more intensity and were sharing the ball better.
 

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