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+ JorBo hit a couple bombs from NBA range;
+ Pemsl outplayed a 22-23 y/o senior
+ Moss scored double digit
+Fran out coached us with mix up defenses
and we ain't beating Drake by 50
+ Pemsl outplayed a 22-23 y/o senior
+ Moss scored double digit
+Fran out coached us with mix up defenses
and we ain't beating Drake by 50
We are in year 2 of the Prohm era with a bunch of Fred's guys. If you can't acknowledge the fact that Prohm was put into a very challenging situation then you are being delusional. If you aren't impressed with the way he's been able to get these guys to buy into defense then you're just being selective. Part of being a fan is taking the bad with the good. A lot of the issues we have right now are correctable but the seniors have to want to do it.
I've seen posters calling for Prohm to bench the straters and blah blah blah. I can't even imagine what this thread would look like if that happened! Cut the guy some freakin slack! We have a really nice 2017 class and some other pieces on the roster to work with. You guys act like it's win this year or our success is over.
I've seen posters calling for Prohm to bench the straters and blah blah blah. I can't even imagine what this thread would look like if that happened! Cut the guy some freakin slack! We have a really nice 2017 class and some other pieces on the roster to work with. You guys act like it's win this year or our success is over.
When was the last time a team with a near or sub .500 record made the tournament?
For a team struggling in every game considered anywhere near quality, the answer isn't filling the early part of the schedule with more of those games.
I feel like this team freaks out at the first sign of any team playing any sort of adequate defense and then resorts to playing bad offense.
If you aren't disappointed with the lack of a half court offense, usage of timeouts, attitude, and play and coaching specifically in the last two minutes of halves in tight games then you are just being selective.
Am I doing this right Bill?
If you can't win games against any quality competition, completely avoiding it certainly isn't an answer which will lead to a tournament berth.
It gives you your only chance, actually, not to mention we haven't completely avoided it.
Average and below average teams, particularly ones needing to learn how to replace a guy like Georges without adding significant talent, do not benefit by adding more games like Gonzaga, Cincy, or even more games like Iowa (which will end up with a much better RPI than now) and Indiana State. RPI only comes into play when you have a good record.
And not to mention those OOC games come at the beginning of the season when teams with issues are trying to figure it out. It might be better to be dinged a couple of seed lines for a weak OOC then pile up 4 or 5 more losses that keep you out of the field entirely. Neither way is a sure bet.
Better to have a strong team and a strong schedule. - Captain Obvious
I'll give you the timeout usage and end of game situations but the lack of offense is on the players. Go ahead and think that our current situation is a Prohm problem but I'm going to disagree.
We have 5 seniors on the floor and not a single leader. Yep, thanks Steve.
We have zero ball movement and we don't share the ball. Thanks a lot Steve
Young gets himself into good position on the block and we won't pass it down low. Thanks Steve
The one fix IMO that Prohm can put into place is to move Naz & Holden to the Bench for Young and Babb. If we don't make some roster changes then yeah, I think it's fair to start question things. I'm more interested in seeing how our seniors respond after getting punked on their rivals floor unfortunately we won't really know until Big 12 play starts.
Agree, depending on the team, a good schedule can burst the bubble as much as it can help.
Let's finally sign some Big 12 level big men and get this thing going forward again. Then worry about having better OOC.
Also, the most ideal schedules for a team like this are expensive. Swapping out the extremely low RPI teams with low RPI teams would help without risking wins, but that's costly and a bit of a crapshoot.
I think ISU needs to probably only lose 7 games at the most in conference if it wants to go to the tournament and needs to win probably all games at home except maybe KU.
To be fair, Holden is averaging 1 point/ game the last two games. ONE! Not even plural. I don't think there is much to think twice about there. Your starter status must be in danger with that.
For the fans sake and from a morale sake we better beat ku
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I agree about the surprising and encouraging defense, but poor ball movement leads to poor shooting %. Thomas and Naz are proven threats to shoot much higher than they are. I see no reason why they can't boost that to 38-40% as a team if they are getting open and in-rhythm shots as opposed to half their shots being hoisted up due to no better option when the clock is running down.
The good news is we have 20+ days to install a capable talent. The bad news is that we have had the whole off-season plus one month and we have yet to build a stable working offense with an identity, so if we see more of the same, doubt really starts to creep in my mind at least whether Coach Prohm is the right guys moving forward. I think the next few years will tell us more about him as a coach when he gets his guys that he recruited out on the court, but only time will tell.
Thank you for spelling it correctly. That may be the most misspelled word on CF.
Don't know if this is telling or not but the only time Prohm went to the tournament at Murray St was the year after Kennedy left. Let's hope that is not the case at ISU.
