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HFCS said:
There are a lot of 4-8 teams I'd rather play than UCLA who I know is loaded with speed. I'd rather play the bottom half of the Big Ten.

There are less bye weeks in P12 play.
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CyJack13 said:
Lol when you don't have a logical argument fall back to calling someone an Iowa fan. Good stuff, glad to know you have nothing to back up your position.

And Washington didn't even play UCLA.
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OK, as a Cyclone fan who is more passionate about Big Ten football than Big 12 football are you going to tell me there's no speed issue between the B10 and P12 after last year's Rose Bowl? It's a non-issue for Ohio State and maybe Michigan/PSU, for the Iowa's and Minnesota's of the conference it's a real thing.
 
I either want Ohio State to get embarrassed against Clemson, or I want them to win it all so we can say "The national champion didn't even win their division or their conference, what a joke".
 
They dropped Ohio State from 2nd to 3rd to try to answer their obvious hypocrisy from two years ago. 13 data points matter...except for Ohio State who only needs 12.

Nothing about Clemson looked better than Ohio State yesterday, just like TCU looked absolutely fantastic late season when they got dropped from 3 to 6.
 
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cyclones500 said:
It should be:
Alabama
Clemson
Big Ten Somebody — make a ******* decision
Washington
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This I will agree with. I don't know how you can possible put two Big 10 teams in the national championship. OSU I can see, but PSU got absolutely hammered in by MI. They have 2 losses. I don't think any team that has lost twice deserves in the NC, if there are good one loss teams out there.
 
HFCS said:
OK, as a Cyclone fan who is more passionate about Big Ten football than Big 12 football are you going to tell me there's no speed issue between the B10 and P12 after last year's Rose Bowl? It's a non-issue for Ohio State and maybe Michigan/PSU, for the Iowa's and Minnesota's of the conference it's a real thing.
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If anyone is passionate about B10 football here, it would seem to be you. And using a one game sample size from a year ago to prove anything is terrible logic, even for you. If Oregon St, Cal and Oregon are all so talented, well they should have won more games, they didn't. The Big Ten East is rated lower because Rutgers is dragging that division down. Maryland is 76th, Indiana 64th, Mich St is 57th in Sagarin, the bottom of the Pac-12 North, Oregon St is 67th, Oregon 61st, Cal 56th. Some of Washington's crossover opponents, Arizona St is 66th, Arizona 84th. These are objective rankings that show the difference between those teams and the bottom of the B10 East teams (minus Rutgers) is negligible. If you have a link to your team speed rankings I will gladly take a look at it?

And I don't have a problem with this Washington team getting in, I just don't like rewarding teams that play terrible non-conf schedules.
 
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CyJack13 said:
If anyone is passionate about B10 football here, it would seem to be you. And using a one game sample size from a year ago to prove anything is terrible logic, even for you. If Oregon St, Cal and Oregon are all so talented, well they should have won more games, they didn't. The Big Ten East is rated lower because Rutgers is dragging that division down. Maryland is 76th, Indiana 64th, Mich St is 57th in Sagarin, the bottom of the Pac-12 North, Oregon St is 67th, Oregon 61st, Cal 56th. Some of Washington's crossover opponents, Arizona St is 66th, Arizona 84th. These are objective rankings that show the difference between those teams and the bottom of the B10 East teams (minus Rutgers) is negligible. If you have a link to your team speed rankings I will gladly take a look at it?

And I don't have a problem with this Washington team getting in, I just don't like rewarding teams that play terrible non-conf schedules.
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You think playing the bottom half of the Big Ten is just as likely to provide a slip as the bottom half of the Pac 12? That's my question and you're the one dodging. Only a Big Ten homer wouldn't see a difference between playing UCLA and Indiana.
 
This committee guy is making an AWESOME case for TCU two years ago to be in the playoff.

Only one loss and it was on the road by two points to a top 10 team? In. Oh wait, that means drop them 3 spots.
 
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SEC and B10 are the only conferences that don't have to play by the rules. Both Alabama and Ohio State get to play for the title despite not even playing in their own conference championship. What a joke, TCU from a couple years ago is better than anyone this year besides Bama
 
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Now it's back to 4 very best teams...which only a moron would not have said TCU was two years ago.
 
Cy$ said:
You shouldn't play for a National Championship if you don't win your conference" - Urban Meyer 2006
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That's classic! Someone should ask him about this statement. I'm sure with his answer he should probably be a politician running for president.
 
Oh it's the defensive side of the ball...TCU was fantastic on defense two years ago.
 
Cy$ said:
You shouldn't play for a National Championship if you don't win your conference" - Urban Meyer 2006
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I'm sure he doesn't care now since he doesn't make those decisions.

This is all history repeating itself and is a means for 8 teams.

Fitting Kirby from the committee was reporting from Texas.
 
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HFCS said:
You think playing the bottom half of the Big Ten is just as likely to provide a slip as the bottom half of the Pac 12? That's my question and you're the one dodging. Only a Big Ten homer wouldn't see a difference between playing UCLA and Indiana.
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Outside or Rutgers, who is by far the worst team in either conference, there's basically no difference between the bottom of the Pac 12 North and the Big 10 East. That's what I've just shown. Washington didn't play UCLA.
 
There needs to be objective, on-the-field ways for this to be determined.

Not a committee of old white dudes eating donuts around a table deciding.
 
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Committee: Hmmmmmm.....this team's offensive starting position is not very good. Drop them from consideration.
This whole thing is just stupid.
 
So now the committee chairman says they also look at how good a team is offensively and defensively and OU's defense just wasn't where it needed to be. Really?

I'm not saying OU should have gotten in because they shouldn't, but he's saying that a team that can outscore everyone on the planet doesn't deserve to be in if their defense isn't up to snuff? If so, the Big 12 had better change their entire brand of football.

Also, in the B1G title game last night, there was 69 points scored. Wisky who is supposed to have such a great defense gave up 38 pts.
 
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