unbelievable watch this

exactly. Very well put. Both parties bear responsibility. The girl for being disruptive, and the cop for an excessive response to the situation. There is plenty of room for both parties to be blamed for something.

Which as I noted originally I applaud this cop for not killing this kid. Both parties get to share in the shame and stupidity now and that's enough.
 
so we should expect to cops be escalators that don't defuse, and to take anything they say in any context seriously (breaking rules... not laws)

He asked three times and she didn't comply. We don't have all day. Kids that were following rules needed to be taught. Everyone shouldn't be put on hold for this person.
 
He asked three times and she didn't comply. We don't have all day. Kids that were following rules needed to be taught. Everyone shouldn't be put on hold for this person.

certainly a response was necessary. That response did not need to include throwing a kid across the room, however.
 
If a student isn't going to listen to a teacher and needs to have a cop come in to get them to respect the class, they deserve getting slammed to the ground.

I really hope this SRO doesn't get in trouble, but I have no doubt the media will do what it can to make sure he's out of a job.

Still think the girl deserved it. Wish everyone who acted with a "holier than thou" attitude despite not doing a thing in their life to deserve respect could get tossed around.

I don't really care about the officer. It's more the student being a brat that has me riled up and people standing up for her.

I think there is a lot of room to both (1) think the girl deserved some punishment and perhaps arrest depending on the circumstances, and also (2) think the officer overreacted and escalated the situation far beyond what he needed to do to handle things in an appropriate manner. So criticizing the cop is not as much standing up for the girl as it is standing up for the type of law enforcement that we as a society should use.


did you just switch sides and agree the cop was also wrong?
 
He asked three times and she didn't comply. We don't have all day. Kids that were following rules needed to be taught. Everyone shouldn't be put on hold for this person.

I agree with you on all four points:

1) He asked 3 times and she didn't comply? CHECK
2) We don't have all day? CHECK
3) Kids that were following rules need to be taught? CHECK
4) Everyone shouldn't be put on hold for this person? CHECK

Where we part ways is on #5:

5) So the cop is free to throw the unruly kid and teach her a lesson she'll never forget? NO (I agree with his boss, the sheriff on this point)
 
her parents should have body slammed her because she deserved it.

Keep, I never said she was body slammed. I never said she should've been body slammed. Getting "tossed around" is quite different. The "this attitude is not ok but take your time to fix it" clearly wasn't working, and clearly it's a typical issue for this child if the principal and SRO had to get involved.

This is now the 3rd or 4th post in this thread that you've put words in a post in your attempt to make me look like a bad guy, or if it's just your way of setting the bait to get me banned. I honestly don't know.

I have tried, multiple times, over the past year via PMs, to come to a resolution with you about whatever issue it is you have with me, because it's clear you have an agenda against a few posters on here, me being one of them.

You have chosen to ignore my PM's, which has resulted in me PMing 4 other moderators, who have encouraged that I just simply ignore your threads and post.

Since these conversations, I believe I've done a great job at just that. There are posters, like Janny, who I disagree with plenty, but he doesn't pick posters out, and he makes great arguments, while not trying to stir more **** up.

I am not bashing your moderating ability. I am not bashing you as an individual. I just ask, please, just ignore my posts like I have done yours, because to be quite frank, I always feel harassed whenever you're around, even if that isn't your intent. Thanks.
 
Seems really simple. When the cop says jump, you jump. No need to argue on the spot. There's a court system where you can proclaim your innocence.

That's silly to a point. Just because a cop says to do something doesn't mean you should always do it. Would you say the same thing if the cop told you to make a fist and insert it into your rectum? What if a male officer decided to illegally strip search a female suspect. Not so in this case, but to say just follow what the cop says isn't right. Just because a cop says to do something doesn't make it legal....
 
That's silly to a point. Just because a cop says to do something doesn't mean you should always do it. Would you say the same thing if the cop told you to make a fist and insert it into your rectum? What if a male officer decided to illegally strip search a female suspect. Not so in this case, but to say just follow what the cop says isn't right. Just because a cop says to do something doesn't make it legal....

that's some pretty interesting imagery, there cdnlngld. Harvey Keitel approves.
 
These kids need to be taught a lesson, nothing wrong with spanking or physically disciplining your kids. Kids now a days are just running wild with no fear, Parents need to take control of their kids again and make them act like part of society.

I would bet if that were your kid, you would have some trouble with the heavy-handedness of this officer, regardless of the level at which they were guilty of being a ****.
 
These kids need to be taught a lesson, nothing wrong with spanking or physically disciplining your kids. Kids now a days are just running wild with no fear, Parents need to take control of their kids again and make them act like part of society.

Study after study have shown that spanking and physical violence against children is utterly ineffective. If you have to lower yourself to hitting to win an argument with a child, they have beaten you. I am sorry, but it is what it is. It also fails to teach them coping skills of their own in difficult situations that don't involve violence. Logical consequences have a much, much higher rate of efficacy.

In my high school, there were the kids who mouthed off to teachers to look rebellious or cool or whatever when there were others around. Remove the audience and deal with the kid in a calm and collected manner. Again, if you chokehold a teenage girl and throw her against a wall, you just lost and made her the victim.
 
In my high school, there were the kids who mouthed off to teachers to look rebellious or cool or whatever when there were others around. Remove the audience and deal with the kid in a calm and collected manner. Again, if you chokehold a teenage girl and throw her against a wall, you just lost and made her the victim.

I completely agree. Why they didn't just push the desk out of the room or pick it up and carry her out is beyond me. The class gets to continue and you can deal with the situation.
 
I completely agree. Why they didn't just push the desk out of the room or pick it up and carry her out is beyond me. The class gets to continue and you can deal with the situation.

Exactly. Now she not only has the attention of the class, but of the nation. The cop lost everything because he just couldn't act in a calm manner.
 

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