Jamie Pollard...

[CyBobby]

Pollard loves it here and has done a great job. He's not going anywhere.

I agree the only way Jamie is leaving is when President Leath or his successor Prez FIRES Jamie...

 

[cyzdaman]

Hopefully just the rumbling of firing JP, will motivate JP to fire Rhoads.


Sometimes you need a fire lit under your arse. Stoke that biotch up!

 

[SpokaneCY]

I get the feeling that most think JP will fire CPR at the end of the year. I'm not so sure. Do we need a poll on what he'll do?

Only if JP listens to the soon-to-be overwhelming calls for a change such poll would show!

 

[SpokaneCY]

I think Jamie has done wonders for ISU from a "ground up" standpoint. Facilities are certainly improved, there is increased passion about the program, we have had a great run in basketball. I think it's safe to say basketball is still in good hands. Plus we are still in the Big 12 and realizing the financial windfalls from that. He needs to make a football change and I believe he will.

My only complaint is with his ego. I can't think of many places (maybe Wisconsin with Alvarez) where the AD puts himself out there as the face of the athletic department more. Puts himself in commercials, posters. He's active in a not-always good way on Twitter. We get screwed on a call-he grabs the mike. Takes jabs at Iowa all the time. Plus gets pretty defensive and goes on the attack whenever there's criticism. That kind of thing. Most AD's act behind the scenes and let credit on the field stay in the hands of the guys on the field/court.

That said, I agree with many posters here in saying I don't think we would have any idea how good he is/was until he was gone. I don't think he goes anywhere, including Wisconsin. I think he knows he has a pretty good thing here.

He is different that way. Maybe he's overcompensating for the old-school way of having your football coach (or basketball coach) rule the roost and all the ills that come with it (thinking of OU football, Kentucky basketball, etc...). I think JP VERY much wants folks to know he is the boss.

 

[SpokaneCY]

1. You are arguing chicken vs egg.
2. Do you really believe that the Reiman or the Sukup's dedication to the University is due in large part to Jamie Pollard or to the fact that they love Iowa State University, and any other person that was in the same position could have facilitated their donations similarly?
3. If anyone else with similar qualifications could have done the same job, then someone didn't do an "outstanding job." They just did their job.

Getting a rich guy to part with his money is NEVER easy. Sales and promotion of the programs and the vision put forward by JP facilitated those generous donations.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Nope just doing his job, no big deal. Geesh, I'd hate to have some of you on here as my supervisor.

Really depends on what the goal was and whether the targets were met. That's what all good supervisors do - help an employee set stretch goals and try and provide the tools to achieve.

 

[SpokaneCY]

He is reimbursed appropriately for doing what he has been asked to do. I am sure you are in a similar situation at your job. People seem to think he also deserves high praise for doing something he was expected to do. Do you think you deserve high praise for creating Widget A as expected?

If you reinvent Widget A and it's met with record breaking sales (like season ticket sales) than high praise indeed.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Great point. BVDV accomplished much less in regards to increasing revenue, increasing attendance, and improving facilities. And he was only given the best seasons in school history in football and basketball to work with.

Not derailing, but I seem to remember BVDV having to deal with some budget messes left over by Gene Smith? I seem to recall a line of reasoning that we wanted an "administrator" in the most bueracratic sense of the word to right the financial ship. Not defending - just trying to remember what circumstances he fell into.

 

[jbhtexas]

Not derailing, but I seem to remember BVDV having to deal with some budget messes left over by Gene Smith? I seem to recall a line of reasoning that we wanted an "administrator" in the most bueracratic sense of the word to right the financial ship. Not defending - just trying to remember what circumstances he fell into.

This is pretty much correct.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Not derailing, but I seem to remember BVDV having to deal with some budget messes left over by Gene Smith? I seem to recall a line of reasoning that we wanted an "administrator" in the most bueracratic sense of the word to right the financial ship. Not defending - just trying to remember what circumstances he fell into.

BVDV did some good things while he was here, his handling of the LE mess was apparently his undoing. That issue was a hot potato with no good solution, however LE himself said it was best he left Ames. But BVDV won a national award for A.D. of the year while he was here, so obviously he wasn't the chump some try to make him out to be.

 

[ISU42]

BVDV did some good things while he was here, his handling of the LE mess was apparently his undoing. That issue was a hot potato with no good solution, however LE himself said it was best he left Ames. But BVDV won a national award for A.D. of the year while he was here, so obviously he wasn't the chump some try to make him out to be.

Didn't BVD turn down a bowl bid at a school in Louisiana? Maybe I'm misremembering.

 

[Cycsk]

Lets look at it this way. This might be a stretch but I will go for it.

You own two stores, A and B. These two stores each have 1 sales person, A and B respectively. For every person that comes in the store these sales people can either 1) Make this person spend 0% of what they planned to spend 2) Make this person spend 50% of what they planned to spend 3) Make this person spend 100% of what they planned to spend or 4) Spend 200% of what they planned to spend.

The average person that goes into store A plans to spend $200. The average person leaves the store with $200 worth of product.

The average person that goes into store B plans to spend $25 dollars. The average person leaves the store with $50 worth of product.

Who is the better sales person?

Even if sales person A only got people to spend 50% of what they planned to spend, store A still outperforms store B. Regardless, sales person B is clearly the better sales person but outside factors have made store A appear more successful.

Soooo.....point is that it is basically impossible to compare JP to previous AD's because outside factors are so incredibly different now than they were then that you can never really come to an accurate conclusion. I also don't know if JP is the 50%, 100%, or 200% guy, and quite frankly neither do you. My opinion is that he is somewhere in the 50 - 100% and thus I do not feel he deserves any praise.

Regarding your "I understand you're unhappy with CPR, but you're basically saying Jamie has simply done the minimum requirement over the past decade, and that's horse ****." comment, I just don't think he has proven he deserves to conduct a coaching search without outside help and doesn't deserve final say once the search has concluded and we are between a few candidates.

Maybe you can't tell that JP > BVDV, but I can. Is that you BVDV? Got a new username?

 

[CYKOFAN]

Didn't BVD turn down a bowl bid at a school in Louisiana? Maybe I'm misremembering.

Yes, he held out for a better bowl they thought they would get, but it fell thru. Still doesn't take away from some of the good things he did while at ISU. I haven't tried to compare JP and BVDV, but thought it's worth pointing out that BVDV did win that national A.D. award to those that try to build up JP by putting down BVDV.

 

[Al_4_State]

Pollard is a lot like Dan McCarney to me.

He increased ISU's profile and did a ton of good here. But we're seeing diminishing returns constantly. He's become so arrogant and out of touch, that he routinely inserts himself needlessly into dialogues and only serves to embarrass the university. Ranting about transfers with G Mac. Ranting about the officials with Rhoads last year. Allegedly nickle-and-diming the successful coaches he's hired (Sanderson and Hoiberg) while vehemently defending/refusing to fire under-performers in Rhoads and McDermott. This lends credence to the accusation in the Hines piece that he became jealous of Hoiberg.

Pollard has done more than any AD in ISU history, but that doesn't mean he's still doing the kind of job this university deserves. I fear he still thinks of us as "the little school on the prairie" and apparently some of you do to.

 

[ExCyment]

Pollard has solid credentials in being an AD and businessman. Just look at the facilities and the money he has brought to Iowa State. He has experience in being the President of the entire 1A Athletics Directors Association (Immediate Past President now). His main issue for me is not hiring the right football coach.

The other issue is ISU does not pay coaches incredibly well compared to the rest of the B12.

Football coach salaries, benefits, bonuses paid by university*
1. Mack Brown (resigned Dec.)/Charlie Strong - football - $7,723,067
2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: $5,533,882
3. Gary Patterson, Texas Christian: $4,008,150
4. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State: $3,196,606
5. Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia: $3,180,788
6. Art Briles, Baylor: $3,135,146
7. Bill Snyder, Kansas State: $2,987,038
8. Charlie Weis, Kansas (since fired): $2,566,662
9. Kliff Klingsbury, Texas Tech: $2,270,928
10. Paul Rhoads, Iowa State: $1,837,627

Football recruiting spending*
1. Oklahoma: $880,541
2. Texas Tech: $751,027
3. Iowa State: $644,213
4. Texas: $594,124
5. Kansas: $577,432
6. West Virginia: $448,540
7. Kansas State: $445,603
8. Oklahoma State: $203,622

So the players should be there with all that money spent recruiting, just the coach isn’t at the same level of competency.

Get what you pay for? *2013-14 Data

Because how much you spend on recruiting directly correlates to the recruit you can attract???????

 

[Spam]

Pollard is a lot like Dan McCarney to me.

He increased ISU's profile and did a ton of good here. But we're seeing diminishing returns constantly. He's become so arrogant and out of touch, that he routinely inserts himself needlessly into dialogues and only serves to embarrass the university. Ranting about transfers with G Mac. Ranting about the officials with Rhoads last year. Allegedly nickle-and-diming the successful coaches he's hired (Sanderson and Hoiberg) while vehemently defending/refusing to fire under-performers in Rhoads and McDermott. This lends credence to the accusation in the Hines piece that he became jealous of Hoiberg.

Pollard has done more than any AD in ISU history, but that doesn't mean he's still doing the kind of job this university deserves. I fear he still thinks of us as "the little school on the prairie" and apparently some of you do to.

What? Where is this from? I guess I missed this.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Because how much you spend on recruiting directly correlates to the recruit you can attract???????

Toledo spends $171,153 a year and gets enough recruits to beat our ***. Do you not think it's odd we are the 3rd highest spender in recruiting in the B12 but we are the bottom of the barrel in wins?

 

[CyBobby]

The people who are calling for the firing of JP need to calm the F down. Yes, he needs to wake up and get rid of CPR but other than that he has been one of the best things to happen to ISU athletics. I would hate to see him leave.

I agree with U that Jamie needs to wake up and FIRE this Entire Staff at the end of this dismal season.

 

[Rogue52]

Pollard is a lot like Dan McCarney to me.

He increased ISU's profile and did a ton of good here. But we're seeing diminishing returns constantly. He's become so arrogant and out of touch, that he routinely inserts himself needlessly into dialogues and only serves to embarrass the university. Ranting about transfers with G Mac. Ranting about the officials with Rhoads last year. Allegedly nickle-and-diming the successful coaches he's hired (Sanderson and Hoiberg) while vehemently defending/refusing to fire under-performers in Rhoads and McDermott. This lends credence to the accusation in the Hines piece that he became jealous of Hoiberg.

Pollard has done more than any AD in ISU history, but that doesn't mean he's still doing the kind of job this university deserves. I fear he still thinks of us as "the little school on the prairie" and apparently some of you do to.

All of the above.

If Pollard were to leave or get fired, I will be worried that we screw up hiring his replacement but the lines "He's the best we've ever had. He's done a great job. Etc." are not reasons for him to continue in his role.

The old Pollard line "builder not maintainer" seems to have come into play except he never really built much of a winning football program.

 

[ThatllDoCy]

Jamie has done a very good job with all things financial at ISU, and developing facilities for sure. He has improved the Department in every way.

His achilles heel is the Football Coaching hires, but it is a tough tough job to be the HC at ISU. It's a very difficult fill. I don't think it is the same as not being able to hire the right Coach for Texas.

You get what you pay for, and we do not comp our HC's at the level of the rest of the Big 12. Can we? I don't know, but you have to pay these guys to get them to come here.