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madguy30 said:

"But it's really pretty cool knowing that there is an extra set of eyes always watching the road ahead."

While it's not saying they specifically 'need' one, it's implying that it's good to have one...I'm saying it should be unnecessary, even theoretically.
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Why? Especially in heavy or crazy traffic it is nice to have someone else with me to keep an eye out. Just like when I fly I generally like having a co-pilot there to help look for traffic.

I don't want it acting on stuff it senses but I do want it to notify me.
 
cstrunk said:
I agree about the driving part, but I hope you're not the guy in the left lane speeding up and slowing down all the time.
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If I'm in the left lane it's because I am passing. I try not to hang out in it like some people. Trust me those people drive me nuts. I have no patience for that.
 
madguy30 said:

"But it's really pretty cool knowing that there is an extra set of eyes always watching the road ahead."

While it's not saying they specifically 'need' one, it's implying that it's good to have one...I'm saying it should be unnecessary, even theoretically.
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But when you check your speedometer, or mirrors, or HVAC/radio controls, or kids in the back seat, or... you take your eyes off the road. The tech doesn't. The tech can continuously/simultaneously monitor everything in all directions, and that's why it's an improvement. And if the tech is doing that anyway, then the human observation is redundant and the only "value" you add is to make a decision based on the observations of the tech.

If you give the tech a little more freedom to control the car (which we already do with cruise control, ABS, automatic transmissions, rain-sensing wipers, automatic headlights, low-speed emergency braking, etc.) to stay in its lane and calculate the route and perform evasive maneuvers, then there just isn't much else for the human to do. Right now they only thing I think a human can do better is evasive maneuvers but that's assuming the human is a decent driver and is paying attention to the hazard as it's unfolding. To successfully evade a road hazard, you have to 1) understand where things are relative to your car, 2) understand how your car will behave to sudden turning/braking/throttle and 3) find a low-risk route based on 1 and 2. Right now, the tech can do 1 and 2 better than people can and it's only a matter of time before the tech gets better at 3 as well.
 
And for the record, I LOVE driving. But 99% of driving is just trying to get from Point A to Point B. If I can let a computer drive me to work while I eat breakfast or check Facebook, great. If I can let a computer drive me to Seattle while I read a book, even better. But I do love to get out on the Washington back roads and flog my little Civic on the twists and turns and dips and rises.
 
besserheimerphat said:
And for the record, I LOVE driving. But 99% of driving is just trying to get from Point A to Point B. If I can let a computer drive me to work while I eat breakfast or check Facebook, great. If I can let a computer drive me to Seattle while I read a book, even better. But I do love to get out on the Washington back roads and flog my little Civic on the twists and turns and dips and rises.
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And even beyond the convenience, if we can get from point A to point B with drastically lower odds of myself or my family getting in an accident, with a reduced insurance rate, and with a decreased need to spend money to expand travel infrastructure in the future...I just can't understand how someone could love driving so much that they'd stand in the way of all of that.
 
If a car last year on I-70 had lane awareness and notified the driver that they were merging into us my wife would not have had to take evasive action that totaled our car whole they cluelessly kept driving.
 
wxman1 said:
If a car last year on I-70 had lane awareness and notified the driver that they were merging into us my wife would not have had to take evasive action that totaled our car whole they cluelessly kept driving.
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My Subaru still would have been totaled in February by a guy running a red light.
 
Cyclones_R_GR8 said:
I like to drive. Why the heck would I want my car to do it for me?

I rarely even use the cruise control when on the interstate
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I drive an hour each way to work. About 45 minutes each way to my daughter's softball practices.

I would literally kill someone for a self-driving car right now.
 
klamath632 said:
I drive an hour each way to work. About 45 minutes each way to my daughter's softball practices.

I would literally kill someone for a self-driving car right now.
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I suppose replacing some of the tedious daily driving would work. I just think sitting in a car all day without actually doing the driving on a road trip would drive me crazy and this is coming from a guy that does automation for a living.
And they can automate my motorcycle when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
 
Cyclones_R_GR8 said:
I suppose replacing some of the tedious daily driving would work. I just think sitting in a car all day without actually doing the driving on a road trip would drive me crazy and this is coming from a guy that does automation for a living.
And they can automate my motorcycle when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
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Tv, radio, read the paper, rub one out, you can do whatever you want to do. It's not like you have to sit there and watch the road the whole time.
 
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