Exactly. The bigger names don't want their name out. Just because we don't know publicly that they are interviewing doesn't mean that they are not interviewing.
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Exactly. The bigger names don't want their name out. Just because we don't know publicly that they are interviewing doesn't mean that they are not interviewing.
Underwood has the best resume of the group. Of course, does he want to stay in Ames if Kansas State opens up?
Prohm doesn't impress me that much. Drew is known as a good recruiter and pretty good coach but he has only ever been at Valpo where his dad already established a solid program.
Lindsey Hunter intrigues me just because he is an NBA guy.
I would be fine with either Underwood or TJ. Thinking about it I think there are some good arguments for continuity equalling continued success. Look at Butler, even Murray State and Valpo both just promoted the top assistant. If TJ would continue the style of play it makes a lot of sense especially for recruiting purposes and I imagine he knows a lot of young coaches who are good recruiters looking for a move up. It would be nice to have someone who could recruit Chicago.
Prohm doesn't impress me that much. Drew is known as a good recruiter and pretty good coach but he has only ever been at Valpo where his dad already established a solid program.
Lindsey Hunter intrigues me just because he is an NBA guy.
I would be fine with either Underwood or TJ. Thinking about it I think there are some good arguments for continuity equalling continued success. Look at Butler, even Murray State and Valpo both just promoted the top assistant. If TJ would continue the style of play it makes a lot of sense especially for recruiting purposes and I imagine he knows a lot of young coaches who are good recruiters looking for a move up. It would be nice to have someone who could recruit Chicago.
Where's your link that we can't pay anyone? This is an excuse that some people who are downers seem to keep putting out there. Hoiberg was making $2.6mil, which is pretty darn high. There's no reason we can't pay a coach close to that amount of cash. Fred didn't make this job look a million times better than it is: he was the right guy that did everything and tackled this job correctly. I know everyone thinks our program stinks, but if a guy comes in and works all the right angles, hires the right assistants, and puts everything they can into this job (I never feel like McDoormat did), we can win and win a lot of games in the future. Gameday, Hilton Coliseum, one of the loudest and proudest fanbases, and a top ten team. You really think nobody decent wants to take this job? I know you're used to the nutcup mentality, but this isn't like taking over the TCU basketball program.
Both Eustachy and Floyd each had 4 conference championships in 2 different conferences as HCs before being hired at ISU. That counts as significant achievements compared with being an assistant, no matter how good.
The search is interesting and Jamie is using a new formula. They are creating an attractive position by leaking names of people who are interested. If the job looks attractive to others, maybe more people will reach out.
This is not Jamie's model, but they are working with a firm that executes these searches so we will have to judge when completed. Jamie, if reports are true, would have hired Otz right away. Maybe the right choice, and I don't think a bad one, but I am glad they are doing a thorough search. Afterall, the Department is larger than Jamie, and having more opinions is not a bad thing necessarily.
Honestly, the more open and straightforward the search the better. Jamie has always been really secretive, and maybe for bargaining position, but for the ISU brand it is good to see people interested.
This is not Jamie's model, but they are working with a firm that executes these searches so we will have to judge when completed. Jamie, if reports are true, would have hired Otz right away. Maybe the right choice, and I don't think a bad one, but I am glad they are doing a thorough search. Afterall, the Department is larger than Jamie, and having more opinions is not a bad thing necessarily.
Honestly, the more open and straightforward the search the better. Jamie has always been really secretive, and maybe for bargaining position, but for the ISU brand it is good to see people interested.
Jesus, who are some of you guys expecting to be interested? We've had a nice 4 years, but we're not some household name. The candidates named are about what I expected. That's kinda how this thing works. Seriously, I want to hear some names of P5 coaches that would be interested and would excite you.
The delusion and general low IQ around here are astounding and embarrassing.
The delusion and general low IQ around here are astounding and embarrassing.
As far as big names, what do people think is a big name?
Most of the big names have good jobs they aren't going to leave. The guys listed as interviewing are considered some of the top young coaches in the game. They aren't scrubs that nobody wants.
Most of the big names have good jobs they aren't going to leave. The guys listed as interviewing are considered some of the top young coaches in the game. They aren't scrubs that nobody wants.
Well whether the AD has background as a CPA, Engineer, Doctor, Garbage man or Hobo should have no effect on anything. Because their job as an AD is to run the Athletic Department which includes hiring coaches.
Meh. Seems like everyone says that, but those guys usually come with a lot of baggage.
See: Cliff Alexander
I think there's such disagreement around here on who to hire because frankly none of the (widely known) realistic candidates stands out. It's like trying to pick a restaurant. Prohm, Underwood, Drew... all have pretty similar HC records. All 3 have basically been running their respective conferences and either make the tourney or miss as a bubble team. TJ is the exception, of course, but he's got his own set of advantages.
Is there a correct choice? Maybe so, but it's awfully hard to figure that out based on the information available. Will just have to wait to see the results.
Is there a correct choice? Maybe so, but it's awfully hard to figure that out based on the information available. Will just have to wait to see the results.
The Bubu situation was a turning point with Fred. He found it abhorrent how that entire situation was handled; including having him in uniform but not being allowed to play him.
This is a good point. In reality if the coach comes from one of these 5 guys the results over their tenure would probably be very similar.
Fred interviewed for two NBA jobs and we didn't know about it until he was locked up with the Bulls. JP may be trying to woo some big names that would like to keep the info under wraps in case it doesn't work out.
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