NFL: NFL Offseason Thread

If they give Wilson that kind of money they're the craziest people ever.

The worst part about Cam's deal is that $60 million is guaranteed which is 57.8% of the contract - to compare, Kaepernick's contract is $114 million, but only $12.9 is guaranteed. Aaron Rodgers only has 49.1% of his contract guaranteed, and only 24% of Joe Flacco's $120 million mega deal two years ago is guaranteed. I can't imagine the turnover the Seahawks roster will face in 2-3 years when they have the weight of Wilson's contract taking a bulk of the cap.

Oops, forgot to link the article I got those numbers from:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...aranteed-money-aaron-rodgers-matthew-stafford
 
The worst part about Cam's deal is that $60 million is guaranteed which is 57.8% of the contract - to compare, Kaepernick's contract is $114 million, but only $12.9 is guaranteed. Aaron Rodgers only has 49.1% of his contract guaranteed, and only 24% of Joe Flacco's $120 million mega deal two years ago is guaranteed. I can't imagine the turnover the Seahawks roster will face in 2-3 years when they have the weight of Wilson's contract taking a bulk of the cap.

Oops, forgot to link the article I got those numbers from:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...aranteed-money-aaron-rodgers-matthew-stafford

Yeah, Seattle and Indy are going to have to break the bank. Both Wilson and Luck deserve it, though. Still, if it hamstrings the team, is it worth it?
 
Apparently Carolina consulted Gary Barta for contract negotiating advice.
 
Yeah, Seattle and Indy are going to have to break the bank. Both Wilson and Luck deserve it, though. Still, if it hamstrings the team, is it worth it?
I don't think it is worth it if you can't pay for a decent supporting cast for a high paid QB. These QB contracts seem to be getting to the point of being unmanageable. You need a whole team of accountants to juggle the salary cap.
 
I don't think it is worth it if you can't pay for a decent supporting cast for a high paid QB. These QB contracts seem to be getting to the point of being unmanageable. You need a whole team of accountants to juggle the salary cap.

That's no lie. But I'll tell you this, if you have that franchise quarterback, you don't let go of them. It's a lot harder to find one than it is to keep one.
 
I don't think it is worth it if you can't pay for a decent supporting cast for a high paid QB. These QB contracts seem to be getting to the point of being unmanageable. You need a whole team of accountants to juggle the salary cap.

It's definitely not worth it, but I see the NFL changing the salary cap limit in order to make rosters more manageable.

Top selling jerseys for May 2015 on NFLshop.com:

1. Mariota
2. Winston
3. Brady
4. Wilson
7. Kaepernick
9. Rodgers
10. Manning
 
It's definitely not worth it, but I see the NFL changing the salary cap limit in order to make rosters more manageable.

Top selling jerseys for May 2015 on NFLshop.com:

1. Mariota
2. Winston
3. Brady
4. Wilson
7. Kaepernick
9. Rodgers
10. Manning

Ask the Cleveland Browns if it's worth it. Or the Bills? Or the Jets? Their owners would be jumping at the chance to sign a proven franchise QB if one became available, at whatever the cost. It's a lot easier to acquire young, complimentary players at low prices to fill the gaps, than it is to replace a franchise qb.
 
That's no lie. But I'll tell you this, if you have that franchise quarterback, you don't let go of them. It's a lot harder to find one than it is to keep one.

I'm going to disagree just a little bit. It seems like the pendulum may be swinging towards building a top tier defense and then hoping to get by with a serviceable QB. The only problem with this though is how much the rules have changed to make it such a huge advantage to have one of the best QBs.
 
I'm going to disagree just a little bit. It seems like the pendulum may be swinging towards building a top tier defense and then hoping to get by with a serviceable QB. The only problem with this though is how much the rules have changed to make it such a huge advantage to have one of the best QBs.

When was the last time a Super Bowl participant did not have a franchise type QB at the helm? It was Chicago with Rex Grossman at the helm.

Look at the playoffs this year. The only team that made the playoffs with a QB that wasn't considered a franchise guy was Arizona. You might be able to make a case for the Bengals, too, because Dalton is borderline.
 
When was the last time a Super Bowl participant did not have a franchise type QB at the helm? It was Chicago with Rex Grossman at the helm.

Look at the playoffs this year. The only team that made the playoffs with a QB that wasn't considered a franchise guy was Arizona. You might be able to make a case for the Bengals, too, because Dalton is borderline.

I'll say Seattle, 2015 and 2014. Do I think Wilson is pretty darn good? Yes. Do I consider him a "franchise QB"? No.
 
I'll say Seattle, 2015 and 2014. Do I think Wilson is pretty darn good? Yes. Do I consider him a "franchise QB"? No.

I'm not positive that Wilson can take a team on his back and win it all by himself without a stellar defense and bruising running back.

Some QBs can just take over and will the ball down the field.