Wow, someone's getting their internet tough guy pants on today. How about if you have something to share you share it? Otherwise it's just everyone's opinion and really it only matters who the coaches name as #1.
Column: Don't sleep on Sam
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Wow, someone's getting their internet tough guy pants on today. How about if you have something to share you share it? Otherwise it's just everyone's opinion and really it only matters who the coaches name as #1.
How can you NOT choose Sam after this!
[video=youtube;H6hvOcsXdm8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6hvOcsXdm8&list=UUOzN9D4MUO5jYbCSEE2iYEA[/video]
(Yeah, I know it was Kansas, but DANG he looked good that night ...)
[video=youtube;H6hvOcsXdm8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6hvOcsXdm8&list=UUOzN9D4MUO5jYbCSEE2iYEA[/video]
(Yeah, I know it was Kansas, but DANG he looked good that night ...)
I think a lot of people forget that Sam has never won a game as a starting QB. Don't get me wrong, I like Sam a lot, and think he brings probably the most versatility at the position. But that stat should not be overlooked...
Did he not start vs. Tulsa last year? The WV game could have been a win if it wasn't for a Woody fumble on the 2 in 2012. The Texas game should have been a win for multiple reasons. And he played 98% of the Kansas game in 2012, so that argument doesn't hold water in my opinion. If we hold onto the onside kick in Lubbock last year, that game could have went into OT. The issue is not with Sam, the issue is with last year's OL and the former OC.
And if Texas had gone the other way would that change your opinion of him?
Do you think we wouldn't have beaten Kansas or West Virginia if he had been under center?
You guys' are right. I forgot about Tulsa. So he has 1 win as a starting QB...
Like I said don't get me wrong. I like his skill set the most, but winning games says a lot about the team leader...which (in no doubt) a QB is/should be. All of those could've, should've, would'ves don't mean anything but losses. A good QB finds ways to win those games. Period.
Not to contradict myself here, but I hope Sam wins the job and proves me wrong. I think he has a noticeably stronger arm than year's past..and with his skill set, I think he can win us a lot of games (especially with the talent we have on O). But the lack of games he has won as a starter is troubling no matter how you want to spin it.
I'm just glad that the redshirt freshman with no experience is not the second option should the starter go down. Both Sam and Grant are bigger, healthy and will be playing for an OC who actually knows what he is doing. I don't care which starts, I don't get the ******* match some like to have about that, and I think both guys will get plenty of snaps this year.
Follow up question... do you think any of the games we lost last year would have been wins if Rohach had been the starting QB?
I don't.
Get what you are saying, but take away the "what if" games, ie Texas, WV and Tech (none of what happend was his fault in any of those 3 games), and in my opinion you give him the Kansas win in 2012 because HE LIT them up, and as I said, played 98% of the game. To say otherwise, is simply a technicality as Steele got knocked out right away. By that reasoning, he has also won 2 games.
No we wouldn't have beaten WVU. Not because of anything other than he was hurt. A healthy Sam could've beaten them maybe but the fact is he hasn't won games like that. That's my whole point. I think he is the best overall QB we have (right now), but the fact that he hasn't won hardly any games is troubling. I don't know why this is hard to understand.
Good point, very good point. I think we have to legit QB's that could play in the BIG12 this year. That is a GOOD thing. I just want our QB's to step up enough to produce some more wins.
I don't understand what I did to be labeled internet tough guy but alright. Just going off what I had seen and heard in the spring. People that have been around the summer scrimmage probably do know more. Also, thanks for pointing out that it's the coaches decision. I was totally unaware of that.
Yes, a QB could be argued to have the biggest affect on the game but even at that he is only one of 22 starters that have to do their jobs to be successful; and that doesn't include all of the special teams players and backups who affect a team's chances. By the winning as a starter metric a QB who wins on a good team suddenly becomes a worse player when he goes to a woefully bad team that can't do anything.
I get that. But these guys ARE playing for the same team, not one is better than the other. My issue is how the games are won/loss..Grant bringing us back to win the biggest comeback in school history on the road..with nothing on the line except to get our 3rd win of the whole year is impressive..now matter who your preference at QB is.
