You realize that Cooke and Diallo/Ellenson play totally different positions right?
Cooke is our #1 guard target and if we miss on him then we can worry about Nick N
RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend
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You realize that Cooke and Diallo/Ellenson play totally different positions right?
Cooke is our #1 guard target and if we miss on him then we can worry about Nick N
1 in hand > 2 in bush
We aren't getting all three of those guys anyway. If we get Cook we probably stop recruiting Nick. At least I would guess that but Fred is Fred.
Details on ISU's recruitment of Cooke.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/basketbal...oke-is-already-very-familiar-with-iowa-state/
http://cyclonefanatic.com/basketbal...oke-is-already-very-familiar-with-iowa-state/
I agree it's better to have something than nothing (see: RV). Just expressing a passing thought....
With Cooke, you have more than just "something" because he hit 45% from 3 as a FR. He's on the radar of the NBA. He's proven against the type of talent he'll face consistently in the B12. None of the other 3 you mentioned are proven at the collegiate level.
That isn't to say that NN won't be a very good ball player, but evaluating transfers is much easier than guessing on HS kids based on their body of work.
Had a dream last night that we didn't get him. However generally the things I dream don't become the reality so we're good.
Exactly. It is not as though Cooke is a fall back recruit. The staff has made comments about keeping a scholarship open as a potential plan and have cooled somewhat on 4-star high school guys. Given that selectivity, if we are going after Cooke we must feel he is very good. 2015-16 is going to be a huge year for us and Cooke as a redshirt Soph that has been in the program a year is going to a bigger asset than all but the very elite preps.
Plus, we still have two scholarships. It would be surprising to get one, let alone three.
Absolutely not. A guy that's proven at a D1 school that shot 46% from 3 as a freshman. You take that guy over almost any high schooler. Especially if you are not sure the high schooler is ours to get. Have you seen the list of teams after the three guys you mentioned?
Diallo: Arizona, Kansas, Ohio State
Ellenson: Baylor, Duke, Michigan St, Wisconsin
Noskowiak: Marquette, Creighton, and I'm sure his list will grow now that his recruitment opened up.
We are going against the who's who of college basketball for these three, as apposed to transfers, where we are the king. It's good to be the king.
Cooke says he is in no hurry but didn't BDJ say he was in no hurry and he committed before he even left Ames?
The way Hoiberg and Abdelmassih can instantly woo transfer players is amazing. If the staff believes a transfer can impact the program I believe they'll commit before they leave town 9 times out of 10.
The way Hoiberg and Abdelmassih can instantly woo transfer players is amazing. If the staff believes a transfer can impact the program I believe they'll commit before they leave town 9 times out of 10.
I would actually take the exact opposite opinion if the team is truely "ALL IN" on 2015-16 you take two transfers who both have played at a high level in ACC/Pac 10 over the potential of getting HS recruits. Cooke and Anderson will have a red shirt year to learn the system and build chemistry. Fran Franchillia tweeted that he has heard NBA scouts noticing and liking Cooke's potiential at the next level during his freshman year. Most of the recruiting experts were mentioning what a huge loss it was for the OSU program. This isn't the case of just filling a scholarship, it is getting a SG with NBA protential that was under recruited, not to mention he has 3 years of eligibility left.
As for getting those three recruits mentioned, if they want to come the staff will find room for them. Djean-Jones, Edozie, and Hogue will graduate and it is possible another scholarship opens up for various reasons 2 years from today.
I don't think we have much of a chance with Diallo, Ellenson, Esa Ahmad, this staff hasn't shown that type of ability to recruit at that level.
I agree we haven't shown it with HS players and I would certainly sign Anderson and Cooke up today, but sooner or later, Fred is going to start landing a big fish or two.
Seriously, shut up and go cheer for another team. Niang, Thomas and Morris were all four star recruits. With the exception of maybe Diallo, we actually have shown the ability to recruit at that level. Shoot, even Custer is a four star recruit!
Yes I do, thanks for that valuable insight that has nothing to do with my point. You realize that if Cooke signs we only have 2 scholarships for next year and that's three players?
We are sitting just fine on scholarships for next season. We are at 13 if Anderson and Cooke both commit.
No doubt they play like big fish, but they're recruiting situation is way less competitive and it's generally a very short process. It's totally different competing with Syracuse, Uconn, KU, Kentucky, Duke, and many others that may be involved with Ellenson, Diallo and Esa.
Not that I really care, because I think Cooke and Anderson will probably produce as much or more than any of those two in 2015-16.
At the end of the day, I just want to win. Winning recruiting beauty pageants is fine, but go deep in the tourney and compete for the B12 championship and we'll be happy regardless of how many stars our players have.
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