I just think that people who expect Eikmeier to do a lot worse aren't looking at the reality of the situation which is that some freshman come into the Big 12 and just tear it up. There's probably a lot of reasons for that and I'm sure it doesn't happen in the SEC but fortunately Eik won't be playing in the SEC.
Translating HS stats to College stats
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Look at it this way: Every Big 12 school except for Oklahoma State that has been to the Final Four since the Big 12 started is in the top half of the Big 12 (Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas). So you have a few good schools and the other schools are just there to pump up freshman's numbers.
Tennessee has never been to the Elite 8 and they are leading the SEC which goes to show how tough it is top to bottom. Just a few years ago LSU was in the Final Four and now they are at the bottom - talk about tough. Kentucky, Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi State have all been in the Final Four since the SEC started.
The numbers don't lie folks, lots more good teams in the SEC.
Tennessee has never been to the Elite 8 and they are leading the SEC which goes to show how tough it is top to bottom. Just a few years ago LSU was in the Final Four and now they are at the bottom - talk about tough. Kentucky, Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi State have all been in the Final Four since the SEC started.
The numbers don't lie folks, lots more good teams in the SEC.
I do not have a clue, if he redshirts I am pretty sure his numbers will all be 0's, other than I do not know. He is having a great year and I am enjoying it. I will worry about next year. next year.
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We could be talking about a guy that was going to come to ISU a few years ago, absolutely unbelievable scorer, played in a huge division in a major metro area... and then didn't go to ISU and is now at Minnesota.
He scored 40 ppg in high school in a very competitive conference and has done pretty much nothing in college. As has been said many, many times... WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW WELL HE IS GOING TO DO UNTIL HE GETS HERE.
He scored 40 ppg in high school in a very competitive conference and has done pretty much nothing in college. As has been said many, many times... WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW WELL HE IS GOING TO DO UNTIL HE GETS HERE.
First of all, you're comparing apples to oranges when you compare the SEC to the Big 12. The SEC's been around for 75 years. The Big 12 is in its twelfth year of existence. During those 12 years, the SEC has had 6 Final Four teams. The Big 12 has had 5. That's not much of a discrepancy.
Secondly, I'm not sure what your argument about Tennessee has to do with anything. Just because they're good now but used to suck means that the SEC is tough? That doesn't make sense to me. All that means is that Tennessee is a better team now than they used to be. That happens in every conference. Teams move up the standings, other teams move down, depending on talent and coaching. That's what's happened to LSU, for that matter. They had a couple of NBA-caliber players on their Final Four team, and the program regressed after they left. The same thing happened to Mississippi State in the late 90's after their Final Four run, not to mention Georgia and Arkansas. They all had down seasons. It's indicative of the cyclical nature of college basketball, not the ongoing strength of the SEC. And, by the way, Alabama has never been to a Final Four.
If you're going to compare Final Four teams from each conference, the following teams that are currently in the Big 12 have all been to the Final Four: Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Colorado, Iowa State, Texas, and Baylor. That's nine of the 12 teams, compared to six for the SEC.
As for right now, the SEC has two teams ranked in the Top 25 (Tennesse at 2nd, and Vandy at 20th). The Big 12 has four. The SEC, a better basketball conference than the Big 12? I don't buy it.
The one thing I am encouraged about is the fact that Wes is averaging 30+ at a very efficient level. He usually has a high shooting percentage which means he isn't Brooks McKowening his way to his stats. Yes, I made Brooks McKowen into a verb.
Well, I suppose now is the time to point out that I don't really believe any of what I was just posting. I just meant to demonstrate that you can take stats and make of them what you will - positive, negative, or meaningless.
LOL. And a good observation. When I saw Brooks play in high school, he was such a ball hog.
Beasley also has good numbers because he is the designated ball hog. He missed the last three threes against Nebraska.
Glad to hear it because it was moronic.
I started this thread to show how another guard of similar size with similar stats in HS has done in a BCS power conference (and he came from a very competitive HS BB background in Chicago as opposed to Nebraska HS BB). You see lower stats across the board...even in FT shooting. I have read on this site that it doesn't matter where you shoot your FTs...Nebraska HS, Chicago HS, Big 12, or SEC...yet it appears that it may matter.
I never intended any discussion of conferences and their relative strength...both the Big 12 and SEC are top tier conferences with a competitive level of play. However, since 1996, SEC teams have made the Final Four 8 times...6 of them played for the championship...and 4 of them won it (including the last two years). Since 1996, Big 12 teams have made the Final Four 5 times...1 of them played in the championship...and none of them have won it. Certainly a strong argument can be made that since the inception of the Big 12, the SEC has been a stronger BB conference than the Big 12.
I would offer a rebuttal, but I don't want to hijack this thread any more than it already has been. If you want to start a new thread on the topic of the SEC vs. the Big 12, I might expound upon my opinions there. :wink:
THANKS for the laugh!!
You've stated this opinion so many times, you are being mocked and you still don't get it, that is funny.
Thank you for explaining this to me sir. What would I do with out someone as smart as you to explain everything to me?
Generally speaking, those that cannot understand or comprehend do resort to mocking. Or put another way...those that mock are the ones that "don't get it".
Ball hog or the best player on the team? He has a pretty high shooting %, so I'd have to say his numbers are good because he is good. You could put him in any conference and the kid would dominate.
