He made most of that $80M at the end of the first half of Season 5. After he had taken over for Gus, made the distribution deal in Europe, then did that huge string of cooks in the exterminator tents with Todd.
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He made most of that $80M at the end of the first half of Season 5. After he had taken over for Gus, made the distribution deal in Europe, then did that huge string of cooks in the exterminator tents with Todd.
Except he could have swallowed his pride and had his former gray matter associates accomplish the same thing. Except he could have shut up, worked for Gus and probably gotten away with it. Except he could have saved Jane and let Jesse walk away from cooking. And on and on and on. Walter White can try to convince himself of whatever he wants, and I'm sue he believes it, but he's done whatever it takes to fuel his own ego. He's a sad man who is bitter he didn't get the recognition he thinks he deserves and being a drug kingpin made him feel powerful.
I think it ends with Walt sitting in the diner waiting for his family to join him. As each customer, someone from Walt's past, walks through the door a bell rings. Journey is playing in the back ground. The bell rings, Walt looks up and the screen goes black.
He knows Jesse is alive because they said the blue meth was available again on tv.
Ok, I've been avoiding this thread like the plague as I got caught up. I'm finally there.
I don't think Gray Matter has anything to do with Meth, just a catalyst for him to resolve things with the Nazis, and possibly try and "make things right" with his family.
I think he ends up dying to save Jesse.
One thing I think is really interesting about recent episodes is that Walt hasn't been the mastermind.
WARNING SPOILERS BELOW IF YOU AREN'T CAUGHT UP!
He's had so many outs and let his pride and greed screw him over.
Skylars gambling lie was genius. If Walt had thought of that and Skylar bought it, he could have gotten off.
Jesse came up with the magnet idea which was perfect.
Jesse also came up with the idea behind the train robbery which almost went perfect.
Even Walter Jr thinks up a better story for the gas soaked clothes.
Jesse outsmarted him in the desert and even Frank figured out that the coordinates led to the money.
The last brilliant thing Walt did was kill Gus, and he didn't even need to do that. Gus was going to let him walk but he didn't want to let them keep selling "his" brand. That and Skylar blew 600K with Ted.
I think the last episode has to end with Walt finally doing something right to end it all.
I don't think Gray Matter has anything to do with Meth, just a catalyst for him to resolve things with the Nazis, and possibly try and "make things right" with his family.
I think he ends up dying to save Jesse.
One thing I think is really interesting about recent episodes is that Walt hasn't been the mastermind.
WARNING SPOILERS BELOW IF YOU AREN'T CAUGHT UP!
He's had so many outs and let his pride and greed screw him over.
Skylars gambling lie was genius. If Walt had thought of that and Skylar bought it, he could have gotten off.
Jesse came up with the magnet idea which was perfect.
Jesse also came up with the idea behind the train robbery which almost went perfect.
Even Walter Jr thinks up a better story for the gas soaked clothes.
Jesse outsmarted him in the desert and even Frank figured out that the coordinates led to the money.
The last brilliant thing Walt did was kill Gus, and he didn't even need to do that. Gus was going to let him walk but he didn't want to let them keep selling "his" brand. That and Skylar blew 600K with Ted.
I think the last episode has to end with Walt finally doing something right to end it all.
Yeah, I think that's a big part of the interview with Gray Matter. Walt figured out that Jesse was still cooking for the Nazis and that he has to resolve that issue (with an M60).
I don't think Walt goes after GM though we may get a flashback to resolve what happened there.
Remember that Walt thought the Nazis were going to kill Jesse in a matter of days after they captured him. If he heard about the blue meth and knows that Jesse is still alive, I would imagine that Walt thinks Jesse made a deal with the Nazis to save his own life, instead of the whole "Captive with Andrea's... I mean Brock's head hanging over him" situation.
Walt may be coming to finish off Jesse, who he now perceives to be the one that has ruined everything for him.
Walt may be coming to finish off Jesse, who he now perceives to be the one that has ruined everything for him.
You might be right and when he finds out they are forcing Jesse to do it, he saves him instead. Just my thought.
I guess I disagree...remember that Walt left a "viable operation" to Lydia. He taught Todd how to cook. Also, the Charlie Rose interview just said the blue meth had been seen in Europe. Didn't say anything about when...Walt cooked for Europe. If for some reason Walt does realize Jesse is alive there is no way he goes after Jesse. He know's the nazis are evil and Jesse wouldn't just go along with them to make money.
Magnets and Train were first half of season 5 where Jesse was clean. Rest of the show he was a self destructive druggy loser. That being said he is a good guy, and cared about people, which is cool.
Jesse didn't really outsmart Walt in the desert though, Hank was the brains behind that operation. And when you think about it after everything was said and done Jesse was the one that was taken hostage, so who outsmarted who?
Walt knows that his connection to his family is done. That was why they showed the conversation with Walt Jr. He knows he can't get the money to his family without the feds taking it, he knows his son and wife want nothing to do with him. This final episode will be all about Walt taking out Jesse/Nazi's and finding out what really happened with Gray Matter. Only situation I see is somehow he gets the money back after taking the poison, Jesse most likely dies and Walt's last wish is that he gives the money to Gray matter and then they funnel it to Walt's family because they feel bad for fing him over. FIN
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I think his connection to his family is over and they never take his money, unless they don't know it is from him. I don't think the ricin is for Walt, he might as well let the cancer get him. I don't know if Walt wants to kill the Grey Matter people or not. They screwed him out of his lifes work, but I'm not sure if that would be enough for Walt to kill them. Bazooka is for Todd and the Nazis.
Walt dies from violence, but gets what he wants to do done when it comes to his final plan. I have no idea who the ricin is for. I don't know how he could slip it into anyones drink/food except maybe the Grey Matter people.
I get what your saying but I just don't see how the show "ends" then. Walt kills or gets killed by the Neo-Nazis and Todd? But maybe that's going to be the whole point, it ends and all of this was for nothing and so many people got killed/hurt because of all his bad decisions. There has got to be some silver lining though...right..right? :unsure:
If you're rooting for mass casualties the most efficient use of the ricin would be to stir it into the next batch of Meth.
I re-watched the final scene and it looks like Walt gets starts to get angry when they said he contributed nothing to Gray Matter and then gets even more ****** off when Gretchen says that Walter White is no longer out there. It actually looks like maybe the combination of hearing that the blue meth is still out there and her saying that Walt's not out there anymore is what really sets him off and is when he decides he doesn't want to be caught yet.
I guess my point is that I wasn't sure whether or not he was going to go after Gray Matter directly but now I'm leaning towards that.
I guess my point is that I wasn't sure whether or not he was going to go after Gray Matter directly but now I'm leaning towards that.
I loved the use of the original opening soundtrack last night too. First time the series has done that.
I think Walt knows his family is done with him and now all he has left is his Blue Meth and reputation. He will find some way to incorporate the ricin into a batch of Blue Meth so it kills a lot of people and nobody wants it anymore. The Blue Meth dies with him. He also takes out the Gray Matter people somehow or exposes them as the big business behind Lydia and they go to prison for a long time. Maybe he uses that gun to get in to Gray Matter HQ and hold people hostage until he can expose them.
Jesse is a train wreck and knows Brock isn't safe so long as the Nazi's are around. I really think that he will somehow get all the Nazi's into his lab and blow them, and himself, up. He's got nothing to lose and knows he will be miserable for the rest of his life.
Jesse is a train wreck and knows Brock isn't safe so long as the Nazi's are around. I really think that he will somehow get all the Nazi's into his lab and blow them, and himself, up. He's got nothing to lose and knows he will be miserable for the rest of his life.
