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If I were to see the NIT as an accomplishment, then I should start accepting all mediocracy as acceptable acomplishments.

That is a choice you can make. It's an overreaction and lacks perspective, but it's your choice.

Cheers. :cool:
 
That is a choice you can make. It's an overreaction and lacks perspective, but it's your choice.

Cheers. :cool:


I didn't get to where I am today because I saw coming short of my goals as an accomplishment. On the other hand, I don't see these moments as a complete failures. Just stones on a path.
 
Should Fred Hoiberg be fired or otherwise reprimanded if ISU doesn't make the NCAA tourney this year?


Of course not. That is just a dumb question.

Listen, as I previously stated, until this team has 7 conference losses, I will not even mutter the words "NIT is an accomplishment." Now, if ISU starts 0-10 in conference play and then decides to go on a run, I will call the NIT an accomplishment because they would have been dead in the water, and somehow found salvation. At this point in the season, that isn't the case.
 
I didn't get to where I am today because I saw coming short of my goals as an accomplishment. On the other hand, I don't see these moments as a complete failures. Just stones on a path.

All that really matters is what the players and coaches feel is an accomplishment for this year. They are the only ones that know what their goals are and how they will define success for this season. When it's all said and done, if the team feels like they has a successful season, that's good enough for me.

I'm sure the team couldn't care less if Joe Blow fan thinks they had a crappy year. I don't know why fans would even have goals of their own for a team for which they cheer, but that's a topic for a different discussion.
 
Of course not. That is just a dumb question.

Of course it's a dumb question, but it follows perfectly from what you've said above.

Listen, as I previously stated, until this team has 7 conference losses, I will not even mutter the words "NIT is an accomplishment." Now, if ISU starts 0-10 in conference play and then decides to go on a run, I will call the NIT an accomplishment because they would have been dead in the water, and somehow found salvation. At this point in the season, that isn't the case.

And this is even dumber...
 
All that really matters is what the players and coaches feel is an accomplishment for this year. They are the only ones that know what their goals are and how they will define success for this season. When it's all said and done, if the team feels like they has a successful season, that's good enough for me.

I'm sure the team couldn't care less if Joe Blow fan thinks they had a crappy year. I don't know why fans would even have goals of their own for a team for which they cheer, but that's a topic for a different discussion.


At this point in the season, if any of our players/coaches are looking at the NIT as an accomplishment, then

A) They are looking too far ahead

B) They are giving up


I don't think either option is the case. This discussion can rapidly change in the next month, for better or for worse.
 
At this point in the season, if any of our players/coaches are looking at the NIT as an accomplishment, then

A) They are looking too far ahead

B) They are giving up


I don't think either option is the case. This discussion can rapidly change in the next month, for better or for worse.

I meant at the end of the year. I doubt that the team will evaluate itself until after the season is over.
 
No...just the convoluted way in which you are trying to use those concepts to determine what should be considered an accomplishment for the 2010-2011 ISU MBB team.


Let us play another hypothetical for a moment. Under my previous hypothetical, ISU starts 0-10, only to salvage what they can and grab a NIT bid. Let us say starting tomorrow, ISU wins their next 7 games. Is the NIT still an accomplishment, or just the result of a missed opportunity?
 
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I meant at the end of the year. I doubt that the team will evaluate itself until after the season is over.


Kinda important information if we are to stay on the same page. A year-end evaluation is obviously part of the job, but day to day evaluation is important right now.
 
Let us play another hypothetical for a moment. Under my previous hypothetical, ISU starts 0-10, only to salvage what they can and grab a NIT bid. Let us say starting tomorrow, ISU wins their next 7 games. Is the NIT still an accomplishment, or just the result of a missed opportunity?

Read what I posted earlier in the thread...

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum...-next-up-baylor-12-3-2-0-a-3.html#post2094905

If ISU makes the NIT, it will be an accomplishment, no matter how the conference season starts or ends.
 
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Read what I posted earlier in the thread...

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum...-next-up-baylor-12-3-2-0-a-3.html#post2094905

If ISU makes the NIT, it will be an accomplishment, no matter how the conference season starts or ends.

You didn't really answer my question directly, but that's OK.

Let me get this straight. If ISU grabs wins in all of their next 7 games, which includes Baylor & KSU at home and Okie St, Mizzou, and Colorado on the road, only to lose out, you are going to see that as an accomplishment?


As of today, right now, in the present, current time, the NIT is not an accomplishment. The real accomplishment is still attainable, making everything else obsolete.
 
Okay, back to Baylor boys.

To avoid jinxing our guys I'll take Baylor in a nailbiter:

75-73


Has this been an ongoing problem with you? I ask this because I'm a firm believer that some people would have no luck if it wasn't for their bad luck.
 
We shall disagree. The NIT is never an accomplishment. It is where teams go when they just couldn't get the job done. The only benefit from the NIT is the extra practices. As much as I enjoyed the Cyclone NIT run a few years ago, in the end it was still just a NIT run.

This team, after what this program has been through? Accomplishment. Make a poll if you want.

Don't give this guy a shovel.
 
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This team, after what this program has been through? Accomplishment. Make a poll if you want.



A poll? At this place? Are you crazy? I don't trust the advice given from posters here, ranging from what constitutes as good food, movies, booze, etc etc. A poll would not validate the opinions of this particular bipolar internet community.
 

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