When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 72 8.2%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 163 18.5%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.4%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 452 51.2%

  • Total voters
    883
Nope, not responding to bad math.
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There is war in the Middle East including an attempted blockade in the Strait of Hormuz. Of course gas prices are going to be volatile.
I mean like for the past 12 months. It’s been nuts.
 
We insure a 2021 Kia Telluride that had a ~$50k sticker.
We insure a 2023 Tesla Model Y that had a ~$50k sticker.

2021 Kia=$614/yr
2023 Tesla=$924/yr

For comparison, I had a 2019 BMW M240i, which also had a ~$50k sticker, and it was more expensive to insure than the MY. In addition, the MY was faster.
Goodness, that's a big difference. What's the cause -- being an EV, being a Tesla, both, ...? BMW makes some sense -- it saying "BMW" on the front shoots the insurance cost up.
 
Goodness, that's a big difference. What's the cause -- being an EV, being a Tesla, both, ...? BMW makes some sense -- it saying "BMW" on the front shoots the insurance cost up.
A lot of reasons:

Higher Collision Repair Costs

Claim Frequency & Severity-When people have a rocket, they tend to drive more aggressively. The same reason it costs more to insure a Hyabusa than a Harley.

Limited Repair Network

Battery Vulnerability-In a significant collision, if there is even a suspicion of damage to the Tesla’s structural battery pack, many insurers will "total" the car rather than risk a repair.

A few reasons why it's actual better

The Model Y is consistently one of the highest-rated vehicles in the world for crash safety

Extremely Low Theft Rates
 
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A lot of reasons:

Higher Collision Repair Costs

Claim Frequency & Severity-When people have a rocket, they tend to drive more aggressively. The same reason it costs more to insure a Hyabusa than a Harley.

Limited Repair Network

Battery Vulnerability-In a significant collision, if there is even a suspicion of damage to the Tesla’s structural battery pack, many insurers will "total" the car rather than risk a repair.

A few reasons why it's actual better

The Model Y is consistently one of the highest-rated vehicles in the world for crash safety

Extremely Low Theft Rates
You missed a biggie - two years newer.
 
You replace them, just like you would when you replace an engine or a transmission. Fact of life everything eventually breaks.

Look at an F150, the best selling vehicle in America, a new engine will cost you about $15k for parts and labor. A new transmission is around $8k. You're doing a lot of pearl clutching over something you'll never have.
Yeah I'll probably never have to replace an engine or transmission, as honestly its pretty rare for most vehicles.
 
So do BYD vehicles charge on whatever the common charging port is in Europe or do they use a adaptor? They are unavailable in the US correct? That is some amazing range though, and a nice looking SUV.
These companies adapt to whatever the local standard is. CCS2 in Europe, something different in China, and NACS for the U.S. Tesla for example changes for each region.

America has a 100% tariff on Chinese EV's so China doesn't even try to make these legal to sell in the U.S. Europe allowed China in, and it's been pretty devastating to their auto manufactuers. In typical form, China has started a race to the bottom when it comes to pricing. Europe is now adjusting, but it may be too late. Just as an example, they told China that they needed to build more vehicles in Europe. So China built factories in eastern european countries, and then sent them 95% completed vehicles from China, and hired a few thousand workers at 1/2 the wage as someone like VW to complete the 5% of the vehicle. AKA screwdriver plants
 
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Unless you have a GM 6.2 or a Toyota V35A or a Hyundai 2.0L or a Ford 6.4L Powerstroke. Do I need to keep going?


Now wait a minute. I have a 6.4 powerstroke in a 13,000 gvwr diesel dually and it's the best motor I've had. All stock.
 
Now wait a minute. I have a 6.4 powerstroke in a 13,000 gvwr diesel dually and it's the best motor I've had. All stock.
Part of the problem with the 6.0 and later Powerstrokes is people got accustomed to swapping big injectors and fuel pumps and aggressive tunes without having to upgrade engine hardware. The newer Powerstrokes are less tolerant to that. If you're stock you're probably going to be fine.
 
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Part of the problem with the 6.0 and later Powerstrokes is people got accustomed to swapping big injectors and fuel pumps and aggressive tunes without having to upgrade engine hardware. The newer Powerstrokes are less tolerant to that. If you're stock you're probably going to be fine.


You are correct.

The 6.4 earned it's bad rep by guys who forgot rule #1 when wanting more power. And that is beefing up the internals. Most just put a cheap tune and you would get 600hp and 900lbs. torque from an engine designed for 400/700. And then to put the cherry on the top acting as if it's a sports car instead of a truck. And then complain why a diesel grenades when they try to turn 5k rpm and smoke the tires every stop light.
 
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Depends on the year you have. The late 00's have issues with the pistons deciding explode into several pieces.


Squirting raw fuel on the exhaust stroke in #7/#8 wasn't exactly the best regen process, but drive it like a truck treat it like a truck has made for good results. Maybe I'm just lucky.
 
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Squirting raw fuel on the exhaust stroke in #7/#8 wasn't exactly the best regen process, but drive it like a truck treat it like a truck has made for good results. Maybe I'm just lucky.
I've got one of the Toyota V35A engines and I'm just waiting for the forbidden glitter from my front main bearing to enter the chat. So far so good though with it though.
 
So do BYD vehicles charge on whatever the common charging port is in Europe or do they use a adaptor? They are unavailable in the US correct? That is some amazing range though, and a nice looking SUV.
Adapter or not I would assume it's easy. Drove by a BYD dealership on the Ireland trip.
 
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There is war in the Middle East including an attempted blockade in the Strait of Hormuz. Of course gas prices are going to be volatile.
If they build all the data centers on the planning books in Iowa, look for both electricity and water rates to escalate sharply.
 
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