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deadeyededric said:
Baseball used to be way bigger an yes the Royals fan base one stretched all the way out to Colorado. The Royals won pretty consistently from the late 70s up until the early 90s.
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The 1994 strike really help kill the Royals and definitely killed the Expos.
 
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BryceC said:
This is how baseball has worked my entire lifetime and it’s how it would work in KC even with a new stadium. Nashville royals, come on down!
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The Royals could keep way more players and sign more free agents if they had more revenue. Would they still be a small market team? Yes but they'd be more than a glorified AAA team like they are now. They have a good young pitching staff and do have With locked up for a bit but that's only temporary in their current state
 
deadeyededric said:
Baseball used to be way bigger an yes the Royals fan base one stretched all the way out to Colorado. The Royals won pretty consistently from the late 70s up until the early 90s.
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That was their heyday, and then FA and rising costs took over and they never could get back to the level and keep it going. Look at all the great players the Royals either traded away or allowed to walk because they could not afford to sign them, it costs them a few WS without a doubt.
 
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cydsho said:
This is true in a way because no team had more success after expansion faster than the Royals. But that was 40-50 years ago now. Expanded in 1969 won 90 some games in 1975 then won the division 6 out of the next 9 years with 2 WS appearances and one Championship.
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The Royals are also the only small market team to win the World Series since the '94-'95 strike. And they nearly won two. Their success is not only limited to the 80s and 90s (as is the case with some expansion teams).
 
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1SEIACLONE said:
The Royals played played in the worst division for years, while the Marlins have to beat the Mets, Braves and Phillies. Lets be honest here, which division is the easier to win.
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Yeah... its really tough to beat the ******' Mets... especially in the playoffs.
 
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MartyFine said:
In 2015, KC had 2.7 million fans attend (out-drawing the Brewers), and they won the World Series. So stupid of them.
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Like I stated, they draw well when they are winning, but then it falls off. How many years did the Cardinals draw over 3 million fans, year after year. Last year they were 25th in attendance and they won, only ahead of 5 teams.
 
MartyFine said:
The Royals are also the only small market team to win the World Series since the '94-'95 strike. And they nearly won two. Their success is not only limited to the 80s and 90s (as is the case with some expansion teams).
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You can't lose a 100 games a year and not accidentally build a decent team having high draft picks for that long. Once those guys became free agents they were toast.
 
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The Marlins are in Miami ffs. Just the sponsorship revenue you get from being in a place like that dwarf KC. And it's way more attractive for free agents
 
Cyballzz said:
Yeah... its really tough to beat the ******' Mets... especially in the playoffs.
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How about the Phils and Braves, would you rather play them in the playoffs or Cleveland, Chicago or the Twins? When was the last time a AL central team won a WS, none compare that to the NL east over the last 20 years or so.
 
1SEIACLONE said:
That was their heyday, and then FA and rising costs took over and they never could get back to the level and keep it going. Look at all the great players the Royals either traded away or allowed to walk because they could not afford to sign them, it costs them a few WS without a doubt.
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It's lot more complicated than that. Could the Royals have spent more, sure, but the revenue sharing model back then was basically non-existent and small market teams like the Royals were farm systems for big market teams. Late 90s baseball money is SOOOOO similar to what college football is going through right now and that scares me.
 
1SEIACLONE said:
That is not true at all, once it was announced that Houston would be leaving the National league to go to the American League the Royals were given the opportunity to be the team that switched places with them. They turned it down, and Selig said he former franchise would take the change. It was a wise choice by Brewers to switch leagues and a silly one by the Royals to turn it down. How has staying in the AL helped the Royals attendance wise? The Brewers quickly found out getting the Cubs to come to your stadium instead of the WS brings in a lot more fans, same withe Cardinals instead of the Twins. The Cubs and Cardinals just have more fans. The Royals screwed up not making the change when given the chance.
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I think you are mixing two different events. Milwaukee originally moved to the NL in 1997 so each league had and even number of teams (16 for NL and 14 for AL) to facilitate scheduling since full time interleague was not a thing yet. Houston moved to the AL in 2013 to balance the divisions and leagues at 5 teams and 15 teams respectively, and full time interleague was added.
 
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1SEIACLONE said:
How about the Phils and Braves, would you rather play them in the playoffs or Cleveland, Chicago or the Twins? When was the last time a AL central team won a WS, none compare that to the NL east over the last 20 years or so.
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I mean the Royals have played none of those 3 in the playoffs. The NL East is up a whopping 3 (Braves, Phils, Nats... where are the Mets?) to 2 (Royals, Sox) in WS titles over the last 20 years.
 
1SEIACLONE said:
How about the Phils and Braves, would you rather play them in the playoffs or Cleveland, Chicago or the Twins? When was the last time a AL central team won a WS, none compare that to the NL east over the last 20 years or so.
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The Royals won the 2015 World Series.
 
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cydsho said:
It's lot more complicated than that. Could the Royals have spent more, sure, but the revenue sharing model back then was basically non-existent and small market teams like the Royals were farm systems for big market teams. Late 90s baseball money is SOOOOO similar to what college football is going through right now and that scares me.
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The Royals literally didn't have an owner from 1993-2000 either. Navigating through the strike into the spending boom of the late 90's isn't a good thing when you have a board of directors in charge of every single move.

But I am sure that would have been different in the NL...
 
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