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When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 70 8.0%

  • In the next year

    Votes: 7 0.8%

  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 162 18.4%

  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 189 21.5%

  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 452 51.4%
  • Total voters
    880
lionnusmb said:
I have been fortunate enough to have seen two. One was while driving on the highway with family. A car was on the side of the road in an absolute inferno. I can still remember hoping nobody was in the car. Another was while I was in the car with my family. My dad had an old bmw that must have leaked oil on the exhaust manifold that caught fire. I just remember the hood being on fire and my dad calmly getting off the freeway and driving in front of someone’s house to ask if we could use their hose. He doused the hood with water and put out the flames. I was the last to get out of the car and had trouble because it was a two door. It was the weirdest thing, driving with th hood on fire. He owned a body and mechanic shop at the time and was able to getting that vehicle like new. Mechanics always driving vehicles in the worst condition. Waste of money to work on their own cars.
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yeah as a former mech the last thing you ever want to do is work on your own ****. most of it is just band aid it to get by. I enjoy working on **** now that it isn't my main job. now I just need the space and time to do so though.
 
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motorcy90 said:
they should be more somewhere in between if EVs are as safe as claimed for the "risk" but the fact you combine them and it multiples the risk is concerning. but again this is where the full data and age/use breakdown would come into play most likely. Hybrids are far more prevalent and accessible then most EVs are still, Hybrids are starting to fall into the age where maintenance is becoming an issue on them more. again lets see the full data of age and milage of vehicles.
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Higher because at the highest level you have 2 points of failure (fire in this context) vs 1 between the ICE engine and electric motor. This isn't rocket science and doesn't negate the pros of hybrid vs strictly ICE or BEV
 
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cycloneG said:
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again can you provide the full data on age and milage, or use of the vehicles? the biggest factor in vehicle fires as I have shown is age over anything.
 
twincyties said:
I've lived nearly half a century on this earth and literally don't know a single person who has ever had a car start on fire. I think i've maybe seen two or three in all my time on the road that didn't involve some crazy accident. As such, I've struck this from any consideration in my vehicle purchases.
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My folks burnt up a 88 Olds back in the 70s, I burnt up a Ford something or other sedan only car I ever made money on, bought it private then they gave me double what it cost me when it burnt. (Like 2 grand not that it was a giant amount)
 
I've known of at least 4 family or friends vehicles catch fire. All gas. One was a few year old Honda S2000 or whatever that little roadster they made a few decades ago.
 
RedlineSi said:
I am well aware the fires can be more difficult. The joke is how a lot of ICE people just claim EVs combust by themselves all the time, and their ICE vehicle with a full tank of gas never does. Again, more things EV owners see and hear every single day.
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ICE vehicles don't just combust by themselves except for electrical fires, they catch fire when being driven due to oil or gas leaking on exhaust components. EV's can just combust if there is a fault with their battery system in the middle of the night. The biggest problem is Lithium fires can't be put out like a conventional fire and are hot. I've witness about 3 ICE burn on the side of the road all older poorly maintained vehicles and they usually are just a black smokey bonfire, not the Hollywood explosion. I saw one EV fire, and it was intense.
 
flycy said:
ICE vehicles don't just combust by themselves except for electrical fires, they catch fire when being driven due to oil or gas leaking on exhaust components. EV's can just combust if there is a fault with their battery system in the middle of the night. The biggest problem is Lithium fires can't be put out like a conventional fire and are hot. I've witness about 3 ICE burn on the side of the road all older poorly maintained vehicles and they usually are just a black smokey bonfire, not the Hollywood explosion. I saw one EV fire, and it was intense.
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We have the statistics, EVs are way less prone to fires. End stop.
 
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flycy said:
ICE vehicles don't just combust by themselves except for electrical fires, they catch fire when being driven due to oil or gas leaking on exhaust components. EV's can just combust if there is a fault with their battery system in the middle of the night. The biggest problem is Lithium fires can't be put out like a conventional fire and are hot. I've witness about 3 ICE burn on the side of the road all older poorly maintained vehicles and they usually are just a black smokey bonfire, not the Hollywood explosion. I saw one EV fire, and it was intense.
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ev drivers don't want to admit this factor, or that an ev fire can re ignite after even, again causing issue.
 
The solid state battery would certainly help in the fire regard.
 
HFCS said:
I’ll have my family alert you when I get blown up. I’m not worried myself but rest assured you have this service in place.
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how old is your vehicle? I mean the obvious data shows that is more an issue then ice vs ev. Yet how old are the majority of ev vehicles?
 
RedlineSi said:
EVs don’t act like ICE vehicles. Can you explain to me how you think an older EV is more likely to cause a fire?
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lack of maintenance just like in ICE vehicles. lets see the results of evs being mainstream vehicles for 10+ years. wait we can't considering the actual use factors, weird how hybrids that are reaching that factor are an increased fire risk over even just ice vehicles.
 
motorcy90 said:
lack of maintenance just like in ICE vehicles. lets see the results of evs being mainstream vehicles for 10+ years. wait we can't considering the actual use factors, weird how hybrids that are reaching that factor are an increased fire risk over even just ice vehicles.
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What maintenance?

The Model S has been out for 14 years. No issues.

You’re just falling for the propaganda.
 
RedlineSi said:
What maintenance?

The Model S has been out for 14 years. No issues.

You’re just falling for the propaganda.
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Right, I've been trying to figure out what kind of maintenance would need to be done on an EV to help prevent fires. There is no proactive maintenance I can think of that Tesla suggests for this purpose. Not even sure what *could* be done. The battery pack is a sealed unit, can't open it up and inspect it and wouldn't do that unless it isn't performing for some reason. Look for corrosion? OK, I guess? Inspect the power cables that run from the battery to the motors? Maybe? Any maintenance related to brakes or suspension wouldn't really have a direct effect on potential fire starting, unless we're worried about hydraulic lines rusting and breaking open.
 
Listen the risk profile for cars burning is extremely low. I don’t take it into consideration on ICE vehicles and I won’t take it into consideration on EVs.

I also don’t worry about things that are 1 in 4,000 chances (25 per 100,000 for EV’s as reported in this thread). Thats like the odds of sticking a dart into the back of another dart already on the board. It’s less odds of getting struck by lightning on a golf course. It’s just not worth worrying about.

Edit: not to be grim, but the odds of our kids being present in school in an active shooter situation is two times as likely (51 in 100,000) as an EV fire. Most of us still send our kids and don’t think twice about it.

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