Thanks Rulzzz clones open conference play with a beat down of the hillbillies 83-65
*** Official West Virginia vs #3 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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Kick ass today.
Every time I watch this, I bust out singing Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting.
I still remember being mad that Hogue was called for a foul on this playKick ass today.
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Thanks Rulzzz!
I expected WVU to be bad this year and it's true they haven't beaten anybody and lost to a bad Xavier. However, they lost by 3 to Clemson and by 1 to Ohio State, so they seem to be competitive. Cyclones have been a little underwhelming since Purdue, kicking it into gear for stretches. I'd like to see this 1st conference game be the motivation that results in a complete game. I hope the crowd, without students, is energized. Go Cyclones!
I expected WVU to be bad this year and it's true they haven't beaten anybody and lost to a bad Xavier. However, they lost by 3 to Clemson and by 1 to Ohio State, so they seem to be competitive. Cyclones have been a little underwhelming since Purdue, kicking it into gear for stretches. I'd like to see this 1st conference game be the motivation that results in a complete game. I hope the crowd, without students, is energized. Go Cyclones!
How many times will King say, "No doubt about it..."?
And a few seconds later a WVU player tried to give Monte a concussion.I remember watching that live. If my memory is correct, I don't believe Hogue was called for a foul on that play. I'm sure the ref had never seen anything like it before and was just bewildered.
ISU 79
WVU 65
Not covering the spread but still a good start. Let's Go!!!
WVU 65
Not covering the spread but still a good start. Let's Go!!!
We should start a drinking game around this and see who dies the quickest from alcohol poisoning.
22 year old spiker was a different person
Who am I kidding? I would bring this same sign if I had engineering prints to blow like I did back then.
That was wild watching live with no whistle blown. I thought he might get ejected.
Some thoughts on WVU
As is the case often with new coaches - their starting 5 is entirely senior transfers. In this case they are all from mid-major programs and mostly have transferred multiple times.
The only one that was a Top100 recruit out of HS (Chance Moore) has only played half the games and missed their last one - not sure if he plays.
They have only played 1 game in the last 20 days - a 30pt win over MVSU. Before that they lost in double OT to Ohio State on 12/13.
They are #55 in Torvik and #65 in kenpom (subsequent numbers from Torvik) - rating better on defense (#38) than offense (#101).
They are 9-4, but not a good 9-4. The only Top 50 teams they've played are Clemson and Ohio State and while they have played both close, they did lose both of them. Their other loses are to teams around 100 in Wake Forest and Xavier.
Their only Top 250 win is a 30 point thrashing of Pitt (#95)
They are led by Honor Huff, a 5'10" Sr whose position should be listed as "chucker" - although he does make close to 42%. He played a year at VMI, then sat out before playing 2 at Chattanooga and now WVU. At 5'10", he's a bit like Josh Hubbard from MSU who we played earlier this year in that they can get a lot of shots off despite being undersized, but Hubbard takes both threes and twos. Huff does not - he takes nearly 10 threes a game and less than 2 twos. He also doesn't pass the ball much (or turn it over). He does get to the line pretty well for an extreme 3pt shooter, I wonder if it isn't mostly getting fouled on long shots.
The other starter averaging double figures is Brenen Loriant (6'9" forward) who played 2 years at Florida Atlantic and one at North Texas before WVU. He's averaging 11 and 6. He doesn't shoot the 3 a lot (less than 2 a game) but can make them (38% career).
The '3' is Treysen Eaglestaff (6'6"), a transfer from North Dakota (where he played 3 years with old friend Eli King). He's historically a very good 3pt shooter and averaged almost 19ppg at UND last year, but is struggling this year at under 30% from deep and scoring just under 10ppg.
Their PG is Jasper Floyd (6'3"). He went JUCO->Fairfield->North Texas->WVU. He averages 8 pts and about 4 assists a game, along with 2.5 turnovers. He's shooting 45% from 3, but only on 20 attempts.
In the middle they have Harlan Obioha (7'0") who played 2 years at Niagra, 1 at UNC Wilmington before going to WVU. He's big, but only scores 6 pts and gets 6 boards a game and doesn't do much else (not many blocks, fouls, etc). He is a decent offensive rebounder.
Overall they play a very very slow pace and don't do anything especially well statistically.
As is the case often with new coaches - their starting 5 is entirely senior transfers. In this case they are all from mid-major programs and mostly have transferred multiple times.
The only one that was a Top100 recruit out of HS (Chance Moore) has only played half the games and missed their last one - not sure if he plays.
They have only played 1 game in the last 20 days - a 30pt win over MVSU. Before that they lost in double OT to Ohio State on 12/13.
They are #55 in Torvik and #65 in kenpom (subsequent numbers from Torvik) - rating better on defense (#38) than offense (#101).
They are 9-4, but not a good 9-4. The only Top 50 teams they've played are Clemson and Ohio State and while they have played both close, they did lose both of them. Their other loses are to teams around 100 in Wake Forest and Xavier.
Their only Top 250 win is a 30 point thrashing of Pitt (#95)
They are led by Honor Huff, a 5'10" Sr whose position should be listed as "chucker" - although he does make close to 42%. He played a year at VMI, then sat out before playing 2 at Chattanooga and now WVU. At 5'10", he's a bit like Josh Hubbard from MSU who we played earlier this year in that they can get a lot of shots off despite being undersized, but Hubbard takes both threes and twos. Huff does not - he takes nearly 10 threes a game and less than 2 twos. He also doesn't pass the ball much (or turn it over). He does get to the line pretty well for an extreme 3pt shooter, I wonder if it isn't mostly getting fouled on long shots.
The other starter averaging double figures is Brenen Loriant (6'9" forward) who played 2 years at Florida Atlantic and one at North Texas before WVU. He's averaging 11 and 6. He doesn't shoot the 3 a lot (less than 2 a game) but can make them (38% career).
The '3' is Treysen Eaglestaff (6'6"), a transfer from North Dakota (where he played 3 years with old friend Eli King). He's historically a very good 3pt shooter and averaged almost 19ppg at UND last year, but is struggling this year at under 30% from deep and scoring just under 10ppg.
Their PG is Jasper Floyd (6'3"). He went JUCO->Fairfield->North Texas->WVU. He averages 8 pts and about 4 assists a game, along with 2.5 turnovers. He's shooting 45% from 3, but only on 20 attempts.
In the middle they have Harlan Obioha (7'0") who played 2 years at Niagra, 1 at UNC Wilmington before going to WVU. He's big, but only scores 6 pts and gets 6 boards a game and doesn't do much else (not many blocks, fouls, etc). He is a decent offensive rebounder.
Overall they play a very very slow pace and don't do anything especially well statistically.
That's a great visualization of the schedules. Ours is definitely backloaded, with games 11 - 17 having 6 of 7 Q1 games, and the non-Q1 game is @ Utah for the second game of a west coast road trip.
Arizona has 7 straight Q1 games during that same time period.
BYU and Kansas have much more balanced schedules, at least in terms of intermixing the Q1 and Q2 games.
All of the top contenders (KU, TTU, Arizona, BYU and us) have 9 Q1 games.
Baylor definitely has the roughest path - they start with 5 of 6 as Q1 games and then have a stretch late with 6 out of 7. Plus they have us, Houston and TCU as the home-and-home teams (by far the hardest, I think) and have to play KU on the road (they do get BYU and Arizona at home only)
