Matt Campbell to Penn State??

[Cyclonepride]

On a serious note, I just don't see it. Maybe if he was option #1, but now that he's option #5 or #6, he'd be walking into a **** show where a large and important segment of the fan base is going to see him as a down the list fall back option, and will be screaming for a new coach as soon as adversity strikes. Not exactly a great way to establish a foundation and culture for a slower, build it the right way program.

 

[madguy30]

Penn State kinda reminds me of Nebraska. When Paterno took them into the B10, they thought that Ohio State & Michigan would roll over and find out what a real football program did to lesser programs. We all know how that played out. Now the Nebraska/Osborn continues as they find out that good coaches aren’t jumping at the chance to take them to the level they “deserve”. Similar delusional people, typical comments coming that “Campbell’s 8-4 records aren’t good enough for their level”.

Except PSU was coming on the heels of a couple of national titles within a decade, albeit had been kinda marginal right up to joining the B1G.

Nebraska had been about 15 years removed from a national title and except for a couple of decent years with Bo, had been bad going into the B1G. One of the bigger misconceptions out there is that Nebraska only fell hard when they came into the B1G.

 

[swiacy]

Except PSU was coming on the heels of a couple of national titles within a decade, albeit had been kinda marginal right up to joining the B1G.

Nebraska had been about 15 years removed from a national title and except for a couple of decent years with Bo, had been bad going into the B1G. One of the bigger misconceptions out there is that Nebraska only fell hard when they came into the B1G.

Yeah, Osborn had his panties in a wad because Texas and Oklahoma were superior to them in the B12 on the field and in control at the headquarters. He way underestimated the power of Nebraska being competitive on the field and in the Boardroom of the B10 Conference in the same fashion as PSU did. You are correct, Nebraska had already declined as a football powerhouse. I along with others thought PSU would compete with OSU & Michigan from the get go but they said “not so fast my friend”.

 

[WIBadger]

This explains a lot. I gave up premium after a few years of loyalty and the site has been unusable on mobile ever since. Funny thing is if I would have just been asked why I decided to stop the paid version I probably would’ve signed back up. I was pissed after a temporary ban for a mildly political comment outside the politics forum.

You and @Die4Cy probably aren’t being throttled, that’s just the standard CF experience

 

[clonedude]

On a serious note, I just don't see it. Maybe if he was option #1, but now that he's option #5 or #6, he'd be walking into a **** show where a large and important segment of the fan base is going to see him as a down the list fall back option, and will be screaming for a new coach as soon as adversity strikes. Not exactly a great way to establish a foundation and culture for a slower, build it the right way program.

Agree. CMC doesn’t seem like the type of person that wants to be someone’s fallback, to the fallback, to the fallback’s choice for a job.

 

[AuH2O]

Yeah, Osborn had his panties in a wad because Texas and Oklahoma were superior to them in the B12 on the field and in control at the headquarters. He way underestimated the power of Nebraska being competitive on the field and in the Boardroom of the B10 Conference in the same fashion as PSU did. You are correct, Nebraska had already declined as a football powerhouse. I along with others thought PSU would compete with OSU & Michigan from the get go but they said “not so fast my friend”.

Correct. Why people, even Big 12 fans keep repeating the falsehood that moving to the Big 10 is why Nebraska sucks makes no sense.

Conference records:
Last four years of the Big 12: 19-13
First four years of the Big 10: 22-10

Their schedule got weaker while media thinking it was stronger. Their recruiting ticked up until eventually their sucking caught up with them. They started making way more money.

The move to the big 10 was great for Nebraska. They simply started hiring bad coaches after they canned Pelini. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Clonefan32]

Part of my concern in the PSU AD already looks like **** and the optics of another swing and miss would be bad. They’re going to be offering absurd money and NIL commitment.

 

[jsb]

Part of my concern in the PSU AD already looks like **** and the optics of another swing and miss would be bad. They’re going to be offering absurd money and NIL commitment.

They were offering the BYU guy 10 million. So that’s their starting point with Campbell.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Penn State kinda reminds me of Nebraska. When Paterno took them into the B10, they thought that Ohio State & Michigan would roll over and find out what a real football program did to lesser programs. We all know how that played out. Now the Nebraska/Osborn continues as they find out that good coaches aren’t jumping at the chance to take them to the level they “deserve”. Similar delusional people, typical comments coming that “Campbell’s 8-4 records aren’t good enough for their level”.

Penn State is in no way shape or form like Nebraska, Nebraska sits in a recruiting desert, PSU is just the opposite. Nebraska recruiting was based on the Prop 48 kids or whatever they called them that did not qualify out of HS and they brought them in and got them eligible. Nebraska recruiting was also centered on the state of Texas and then picking the better athletes in the neighboring states. Penn State does not have that problem, they have a very fertile region of the country to recruit in and are the dominate power in that part of the nation. Money is no object for Penn State, and people act like Franklin struggled winning games. He struggled beating Ohio State and Michigan he hammered pretty much everyone else.

Love what Campbell has done at ISU, but if he wants to win a National Championship at a school with great resources he would be crazy to turn down the Penn State job if offered. It's his decision, the team should return a lot next year, and I know he loves the area and so does his family. He has to feel proud at what he has accomplished at ISU and maybe he wants to build on that and have a statue of him placed in front of the stadium one day. Whatever he decides ISU is in a better place for him coaching here that what it was before,

 

[AuH2O]

I saw the press conference where someone asked MC about the goal of a conference title being off the table, and he said he never had that as a goal and went into the process/daily habits stuff.

I’d be interested to see the PSU fan base react to that.

College coaches in this state and at ISU live in complete fantasy land. Make great money with a largely fawning press and an incredibly patient fan base.

 

[CYCL0NES]

CMC is gone... he is not going to turn down $10M+/year, it is generational wealth. Lets not pretend he cares about not being the first coach PSU called for the opening, doesn't matter... money talks and sadly this is the end of an era. I don't blame him, get your money!

 

[Cyclonepride]

CMC is gone... he is not going to turn down $10M+/year, it is generational wealth. Lets not pretend he cares about not being the first coach PSU called for the opening, doesn't matter... money talks and sadly this is the end of an era. I don't blame him, get your money!

$5 million per year is generational wealth

 

[FallOf81]

Would be nice to be able to read these posts without pop ups gang banging the thread.

 

[clone52]

CMC is gone... he is not going to turn down $10M+/year, it is generational wealth. Lets not pretend he cares about not being the first coach PSU called for the opening, doesn't matter... money talks and sadly this is the end of an era. I don't blame him, get your money!

I'm not saying you are wrong, but he already has genertionall wealth. He makes more money in 1 year than most Americans make in their entire lifetime.

He definitely could go, but the money won't be the #1 reason why.

 

[CyDude16]

CMC is gone... he is not going to turn down $10M+/year, it is generational wealth. Lets not pretend he cares about not being the first coach PSU called for the opening, doesn't matter... money talks and sadly this is the end of an era. I don't blame him, get your money!

He’s turned down $7 million, $8 million, $9 million a year offers, but okay.

 

[cyfanatic]

I'm not saying you are wrong, but he already has genertionall wealth. He makes more money in 1 year than most Americans make in their entire lifetime.

He definitely could go, but the money won't be the #1 reason why.

I agree...if he goes...it isn't the #1 reason why...but it will be in his private list of reasons/thoughts as to why he would go to PSU. It is reality! Doesn't make him any better or worse than anyone else...just the real world.

 

[NoCreativity]

I won't even be mad if he leaves, a decade is pretty long in coaching and he's given us some great moments that I don't think will be topped again.

That being said, if he does go it feels like a Hoiberg situation. No doubt hes out of a job in 4 years. I can't even imagine how bad he'll be blasted by their fanbase being from Ohio and coming off an 8-4 season where they lost to Colorado.

 

[cyfanatic]

I won't even be mad if he leaves, a decade is pretty long in coachingand he's given us some great moments that I don't think will be topped again.

That being said, if he does go it feels like a Hoiberg situation. No doubt hes out of a job in 4 years. I can't even imagine how bad he'll be blasted by their fanbase being from Ohio and coming off an 8-4 season where they lost to Colorado.

I don't think the immediate reaction will be universal positivity throughout the fanbase...but I think he would win them over in quick fashion! He is a very impressive person!

 

[Die4Cy]

You and @Die4Cy probably aren’t being throttled, that’s just the standard CF experience

I thought we had all agreed to all it "gunnercloning" in his honor.

 

[NoCreativity]

I don't think the immediate reaction will be universal positivity throughout the fanbase...but I think he would win them over in quick fashion! He is a very impressive person!

Yes, but i dont think they'll care about any of that unless he has them back to 10-2 at the very least immediately.