Fire Mouser
- Thread starter KCyclone2010
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Do you remember when you saw that? That would be a monumentally stupid tell. I haven't noticed but I'd be interested to look back.
I agree this thread is an abomination.
I think you also have to be careful about judging any particular play on its own merit, even if it's predictable. In the context of an entire game, as you suggest in this post, it's possible that this particular play you hate is in fact a setup for something that could be run later.
Sometimes there are "reasons" to run a particular play, and it's not necessarily to specifically gain yards, although that's the goal of every play. The offense is testing the defense and seeing how they react to particular formations and personnel. It's chess AND checkers.
Run play X that's an obvious run play. Maybe it's successful or maybe it's only good for one yard. Maybe you run this play a couple times more in different drives. But in the 4th quarter you pull out the formation again and it's instead a pop pass to the TE for a crucial first down.
I have no idea if any of this is true for your example, but my point is that I believe Mouser is a really intelligent and creative coach. Literally every time I listen to him talk about coaching and calling plays, I love what he says. He's human and he's also coaching humans, so it will never all work out like we want on every play or every drive. However I do know that I'm confident the more we have Mouser and dudes like him leading our players, the more successful we will be in the long run.
we've gotten much better since the Manning days where it seemed like we consistently ran 4-5 plays and got penalized for actually running a pass with ineligible receivers in formation, but there's usually 0-2 plays that i notice. The ones I noticed were from back-to-back plays - Carson Hansen runs at 5:19 (+ 8 yards) and 4:41 (+ 3 yards, first down).
"You either have hands or you don't. It's not something you can improve." That sounds pretty definitive with no wiggle room. I didn't say it was the norm, I pointed out that players can improve in this area.
I seem to recall a certain player who had a tendency toward drops early in his career. Last I checked that young man was a successful rookie on the Houston NFL team.
I can't point out one off the top of my head. But I have noticed at least a couple in pretty much every game this second half of the season.
Does everyone who struggles hanging on to the ball become great at catching it eventually? If they do then it probably is the norm.
Stop moving the goalposts. You said it doesn't happen. I even admitted that it isn't the norm but gave examples of it happening. I never said it was the norm. I said it can happen - you said it can't.
Take the L and walk away.
How would catching a football be something you can't get better at?
Is there any place that tracks drops by receivers? In the TCU game I believe 2nd quarter I thought I heard the announcers say we had 21 drops through our first 9 games and that was 2nd worst in the country. Doesn't seem right. How many did we have against TCU?
I'm not sure if anyone has it publicly available. But I believe the drop stat they cited had ISU at 2nd worst in the Big 12, not the country.
Makes sense. Still hard to believe 21 over 9 games. Maybe depends on what they consider a drop - in their hands vs one they should have caught.
Yes, that's my question. Maybe depends on how you define a drop?
I agree.
Pass hits WR in the hands and he just drops it without contact - obvious drop
WR lays out to catch a deep pass, hits his hands and but falls incomplete when he hits the turf - not a drop in my book
WR stretches out to catch a high pass, hits his hands and he is lit up by the defender and the pass falls incomplete - is this a drop or a good defensive play?
That's probably at least part why it's not an officially tracked stat in college, too subjective to be useful.
Doesn’t seem right? Without hesitation, I’d have believed any reporting of a far higher number of drops than 21 over this season. It’s been quite bad.
