If our guy wasn't still actively blocking I could see it going that way.
Special Teams
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If our guy wasn't still actively blocking I could see it going that way.
He needed to pulled his hands away. Otherwise it gives the blocking look.
I know he’s a rs freshman but I’d be shocked if he didn’t, he was pointing and #11 clears out, you might even be able to hear him but cant say 100% it’s him.
Campbell previously downplayed the importance of special teams - saying it was only 20% of the plays. 20% is a very high number to devote nothing to; and a relatively high amount of scoring and field position is due to special teams.
@isufbcurt I'm curious what the dumb was for on this. Because you don't think it was forced touching, or something different? Was just sharing the POV from our section. I've since watched it back and it's pretty clear the BYU player was yanking him towards the ball, not just steering him and letting him run into it.
This happened right in front of us and there was zero verbal communication from ISU on the field, which is why Beni didn’t know to peel off. Not his fault. Just another example of how undisciplined this team is
CycloneErik
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Well, 20% is only 1 play out of 5 and a series is 4 downs, so really, special teams plays never happen.
He doesn't even play for that most of the time. If you want completely inconsequential special teams, then send every kickoff out the back, and send everyone on the block and fair catch every punt. Fair catch every received kickoff. That's the absolute safest, most un-screw-up-able ST you can play.
We screw up on kickoff coverage by giving up big returns, mostly on not getting them deep enough with enough hang to cover better. Eliminate that altogether by denying any returns at all.
We screw up punts twice this season now by letting our own help guys get shoved into the ball. Eliminate as much as that as you can by sending 10 guys forward and FCing with the 11th. Hell, if the ball is inside the 10 or so, run the 11th guy forward and don't bother catching it at all. Whatever happens after that happens, but at least you'll have the ball.
I would be shocked if there's another P4 program out there who has as many ST issues as we have over time and still have this season. There can't be more than a handful of them. Meanwhile, teams like Iowa make an entire identity out of ST execution and it's responsible for assisting in or outright scoring tons of points for them.
We like to play ball control and field position football. That's all fine and good, but if you don't have above-average ST play, you won't win that battle very often.
In other words we are the exact type of
Of team that should really really concentrate on special teams. It is the difference between winning and losing for teams like Iowa and Iowa State and Iowa flat out does an awesome job concentrating on it. We don’t and it shows massively
We had really good special teams last year and it showed in our record overall and in one score games. Even in our losses, the special teams had no part.
I keep saying this but why are we blocking so aggressively in the punt returner area when we fair catch 90% of the time
Because #5 was actively trying to block the BYU player, the BYU player did have more awareness and directed the mess towards the ball, but #5 willingly participated making an error you'd expect a Jr. High player to make. Amazing that at least 5 seconds after the play was over that happened. That play totally turned the game.
I didn't see it that he was actively trying to block. The BYU player literally had him by the facemask. What's he supposed to do, pull his own helmet off to get away?
He was holding the BYU player as well and actively directing him, not trying to disengage at all. I'm guessing he thought he was doing a great job. Not sure what kind of play he thought he was blocking for all the way down field about the time a returner would be crossing the goal line if he was still running, but he was still blocking.
Of course he was holding the BYU player. The BYU player was holding his facemask, not really anywhere to go to disengage when you can't take your helmet and head with you.
I'm not saying #5 wasn't partially at fault. But I think he's taking a little too much heat from folks.
Campbell preaches winning in the margins but we have had some very memorable special teams blunders on his watch. When he finally hired a special teams coach I thought that was him finally recognizing that is not an area to neglect. We've been pretty good on special teams recently but the blunder on the punt coverage is a reminder how the margin of error is still pretty narrow for us. That was a momentum killer and a play where everyone in the stands knew the player needed to get the hell away from the ball.
